A Challenge for Suhiir - Page 3

wulfir · #1 October 4th, 2015, 09:59 AM

With HAUKNES secured NATO forces move forward toward the larger city of MO-I-RANA. Elements of the Norwegian Army 8th Infantry Brigade pass through USMC lines during the night and edge close to Soviet lines. The Soviets themsleves remain mostly passive.

wulfir · #2 October 4th, 2015, 10:06 AM

MO-I-RANA,
Aug 22, 1985

Elements of the Norwegian 8th Infantry Brigade are about to stage an attack against the Soviet forces holding the souther parts of Mo-i-Rana.

USMC forces are there to provide extra muscle should it be needed. The Soviet defenders are dug in, but belived to be much depleted.

The four objectives assigned to the beefed up Norwegian 1st Battalion, Rogaland Infantry Regiment Nr.8, includes the Mo-i Rana branch of the National Library of Norway, the Ironworks dock, a supermarket area and a government storage area.

Suhiir · #3 October 7th, 2015, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wulfir

MO-I-RANA,
Aug 22, 1985

Elements of the Norwegian 8th Infantry Brigade are about to stage an attack against the Soviet forces holding the southern parts of Mo-i-Rana.

USMC forces are there to provide extra muscle should it be needed. The Soviet defenders are dug in, but believed to be much depleted.

Were there suppose to be any USMC units (artillery? aircraft? helos? anything at all?) in this scenario?

Suhiir · #4 October 5th, 2015, 02:49 AM

A bit occupied with "real life" at the moment but I'll get to this ASAP.

I'll be curious to see a real Norwegian Infantry Company/Battalion (not enough units allowed to do an entire infantry brigade - heck a full Bn MEU is about 400 units).

wulfir · #5 October 5th, 2015, 11:30 AM

No problem, take your time. It'll be a while before I can build the next scenario...

Norwegian Army
Type 78 Infantry Brigade

- Recon Company
- 3 Infantry Battalions
- Artillery Battalion
- Anti-Tank Company
- Anti-Air Company
- Engineer Company
- Supply etc

As far as I can make out the Norwegian 8th Brigade had towed 105mm guns. The Anti-Tank company was probably a mix of NM116 light tanks and TOW ATGM units but I used the in game Tank Destroyer formation with only light tanks.

Suhiir · #6 October 11th, 2015, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wulfir

Norwegian Army
Type 78 Infantry Brigade

- Recon Company
- 3 Infantry Battalions
- Artillery Battalion
- Anti-Tank Company
- Anti-Air Company
- Engineer Company
- Supply etc

As far as I can make out the Norwegian 8th Brigade had towed 105mm guns. The Anti-Tank company was probably a mix of NM116 light tanks and TOW ATGM units but I used the in game Tank Destroyer formation with only light tanks.

Currently the scenario features 2x Norwegian Infantry Company, 1x Norwegian Engineer Company.

Add another Infantry Company so it's a full battalion, and remove 1x Engineer Platoon (assume it's busy elsewhere repairing/reinforcing bridges). Maybe add another full Battalion, may have enough units free if only 2x Marine Companies are used, can always remove the motor recon squad and one of the LAI Platoons if you need unit slots. This is suppose to be a primarily Norwegian show after all.

Apparently the 78th Brigade has 1x SP Artillery Battalion (155mm) and 2x Lt Artillery Battalion (105mm).
The anti-tank squadron is 4x NM116 tank sections and 4x TOW sections.

http://www.fireandfury.com/orbats/modcwnorwegian.pdf (page 5 or 6)

wulfir · #7 October 12th, 2015, 06:30 PM

My reasoning was to leave out one Norwegian rifle company in order to open the door for the USMC player, i.e. if the Norwegians are not strong enough the USMC player must jump in. This being a USMC campaign...

The engineer resources (Brigade Eng Co and Bn Pioneer Plt) are there to help clear the obstacles in the town outskirts, which may be a bit overkill for an experienced player...

Suhiir · #8 October 7th, 2015, 02:08 AM

Also I'm thinking 27 turns is to short for an infantry assault.
The only way you can even get to the furthest objectives in this amount of time is a Banzai charge.
Maybe increase it to 36 turns (6 hours)?

wulfir · #9 October 7th, 2015, 02:06 PM

I forgot to adjust the number of turns, you'll probably need around 40-50 turns. I'll fix that.

Air/Artillery depends on the USMC player's core force.

I assumed you wielding the full MEU minus the fixed wing air?
For an experienced player that will be some considerable firepower in addition to the Norwegian artillery batteries. Also, if you add the scenario to the campaign used for the previous battles you should have another 400 Aux Bulid Points...

Suhiir · #10 October 8th, 2015, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wulfir

I forgot to adjust the number of turns, you'll probably need around 40-50 turns. I'll fix that.

Air/Artillery depends on the USMC player's core force.

I assumed you wielding the full MEU minus the fixed wing air?
For an experienced player that will be some considerable firepower in addition to the Norwegian artillery batteries. Also, if you add the scenario to the campaign used for the previous battles you should have another 400 Aux Bulid Points...

Ahhh ... thought this was a stand-alone scenario.

Gonna try it with 2x Infantry company, 2x LAI platoon, 1x Tank platoon (assume the other infantry company and transport helos are elsewhere setting up an advance base for the follow-on missions).

Feel free to try the scenario with the forces I've added, at 36 turns ... may need to be longer we'll see.
Decided to take advantage of the LVTs and I have a mini amphib landing going on.