Network MA, Whyte (Full)

[thejeff]

Changing the terrain mask to 4194306, as Saint_Dude suggested, removed the Ovens.

Is there a good tutorial/manual on the map file format anywhere? I'd like to know why this happens. And if there are any other sites on the map.
A random map shouldn't have sites, as I understand it.

We could leave it in as a thematic feature, but it's a little more powerful than I'd like. I'd make a beeline for it if I started in that area.

[thraveboy]

Uploaded pretender for Van..

[vfb]

Thanks for figuring the province #53 volcano issue out. I've changed the terrain mask as suggested.

I thought I made sure everything was normal with the provinces using the map editor, but province #53 just showed "large province, border mountains" checked.

The random generator must have decided on that mask because of the volcano. The only doc I saw for map editing is the pdf in the docs directory, and it doesn't have information on specific terrain bits.

Anyway, if you like, please download a new copy of the map from:

http://bemura.dyndns.org/Whyte.zip

Edit: I think everyone will have to upload their pretenders again, sorry! But please wait until thejeff checks the map.

[Ballbarian]

The random map generator places "special" provinces which are indicated by icons. For firesite the symbol is the volcano. I see it as completely fair as long as your remember that special icons appearing on the map can be worth making a beeline for them, and for fighting over them when you get there.

Also, I guess that there is a list of possible sites that can appear in such a province of which 1 is selected. In one of my multiplayer games there are actually 3 volcano provinces under my control. 2 of them are the volcano site and 1 is the steel ovens.

Code:

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"small"            1

"large"            2

"sea"              4

"somewater"        8

"mountain"        16

"swamp"           32

"waste"           64

"forest"         128

"farm"           256

"nostart"        512

"manysites"     1024

"deep"          2048

"cave"          4096

"firesite"      8192 - MAP SYMBOL= volcano

"airsite"      16384

"watersite"    32768

"earthsite"    65536

"astralsite"  131072

"deathsite"   262144

"naturesite"  524288

"bloodsite"  1048576

"priestsite" 2097152

"edgemount"  4194304

---

Hope this helps.

[Eressil3]

Wow i'm late !!! OMG I still don't know which kind of pretender to make !!!

Should I end with a dom 10 awaken wyrm ?

[lch]

Dom 10 awaken wyrms are lame...

Pangea has this really nice Gorgon, doesn't it? Have you playtested it a little? And don't post here what pretender you're taking!

[vfb]

Thanks Ballbarian.

I've reverted to the "firesite" map, since that's the way random maps work.

The way I see it, it's part of the game when random maps are on, and we can all have fun fighting over it.

Here all the other magic sites on the map:

#27 priestsite (looks like a little grey mushroom)
#53 firesite (the volcano)
#91 airsite (blue-white towers)

I've seen the mushrooms and such before on random maps, but never knew what they were. This is good to know.

By the way, #1 and #41 were islands when I made the map (no connections). So I gimped in the ugly cave tunnel things, there is no magic there.

Attached are the bitmasks in hex if anyone is interested, I did this since I can't read bits in decimal.

Edit: I'm sure someone's got something better to dump the data out of a .map, but for now here's Ballbarian's list in hex too, Code:

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"small"            1

"large"            2

"sea"              4

"somewater"        8

"mountain"        10

"swamp"           20

"waste"           40

"forest"          80

"farm"           100

"nostart"        200

"manysites"      400

"deep"           800

"cave"          1000

"firesite"      2000

"airsite"       4000

"watersite"     8000

"earthsite"    10000

"astralsite"   20000

"deathsite"    40000

"naturesite"   80000

"bloodsite"   100000

"priestsite"  200000

"edgemount"   400000

---

[lch]

Ballbarian said:
The random map generator places "special" provinces which are indicated by icons. For firesite the symbol is the volcano. I see it as completely fair as long as your remember that special icons appearing on the map can be worth making a beeline for them, and for fighting over them when you get there.

Thanks for that list, Ballbarian, I was looking for something like that. But I can't find it in the modding / map making manual, did I overlook something? It really should be in there!

[Eressil3]

Please Ich don't disturb my hoax-dumb-tactic !

[BandarLover]

Soooo...which version of the map are we using?