[OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.

[Thermodyne]

Spy photo????

http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...q_****iraq.jpg

Edit: took the tags off, you'll have to hit the link

[ March 21, 2003, 03:13: Message edited by: Thermodyne ]

[Thermodyne]

LMAO

[Thermodyne]

[Thermodyne]

Ever wonder how the White House wages war in the computer age?

[Thermodyne]

Originally posted by Askan Nightbringer:

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Originally posted by Thermodyne:
The Biologic agents were provided in good faith under a program that was intended to help free the world from these organisms. It was a program developed at the UN in conjunction with the CDC. Was it done in poor judgment, I think so. But you link this to the use of Chemical weapons, and those would fall at the feet of the Soviets, and were manufactured in French supplied plants. Also the US never supplied the equipment to make large quantities of these agents. Again, this would be the French and Germans. Sure, they may have thought that the equipment was for other uses. But now that it is time to put a stop to this foolishness, where are the three main suppliers.

In closing, at least America has the fortitude to put and end to this madness. We will end the reign of this particular despot. Which is a hell of a lot more than France wanted to do.

Poor judgement is a bit of an understatement. I would prefer to use criminally stupid.

I don't link them to chemical weapons, I just pointed out the shipments continued after the gassing of Kurds, by a horrible murderous tyrant.

See my point really is this-

You sit there and spout stuff about how bad the French are in arming this complete anus of a man ("Remember they are the bastards that sold this tyrant a breeder reactor."), while claiming the US has has been almost perfect in its handling of Iraq over the Last 30 years ("but we do not supply advanced weapons to despots") and here's hard evidence the US started Saddam's biological weapons program, which you dismiss with a "poor judgement" and a "the US never supplied the equipment to make large quantities of these agents".
Its weak, very weak.

Oh...the cultures was sent by both the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (government)
and the American Type Culture Collection (approved by the government). The usatoday article lists who sent what.

Askan
Not supporting the arming of despots by anyone.

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You seem to have skipped the Last part. America, England and Australia are putting an end to this jerk. What art the rest doing? Many are protecting their Iraqi cash cow.

[Thermodyne]

LMAO Again

[QuarianRex]

Take a look here. Any interesting parallels?

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0316-08.htm

[Askan Nightbringer]

Originally posted by Thermodyne:
You seem to have skipped the Last part. America, England and Australia are putting an end to this jerk. What art the rest doing? Many are protecting their Iraqi cash cow.

*sigh* You seem to keep avoiding my point. So I'll put it in bold and won't mention anything else.
The USA had a hand in the making of Saddam, just like France (which you like to target) and other countries. If your going to rave about how the French gave him this, and the French gave him that then you have to acknowledge the US's part in making of the Frankenstein.

Askan

[mac5732]

Everyone keeps watching Iraq well IMHO only, the real country to watch, which again IMHO is a lot more radical, deadly, and better trained and armed is North Korea. And they are a lot more capable of using mass destruction weapons, bio, chemical, a-bomb, then even Saddam. Their country is even more repressive then Iraq. They are by far the more dangerous of the two countries.

In regards to who helped who, who backed who, etc, at this point is mute. Everyone makes mistakes even the US when they decide to back a specific leader/country. Remember at one time we backed and supported Castro and look where that led. So in conclusion, All countries make mistakes and one never knows how it will eventually turn out. The problem now is, how to undo what was done.

Is France at fault, sure, is the US at fault, yep, is the UN at fault, yep again. Saddam should have been dealt with years ago even before Desert Storm. The UN is a paper pussy cat who can't enforce or fails to enforce its own resolutions.

My 2 cents, I hope I didn't offend anyone, don't mean to, just IMHO

just some ideas Mac

[Wizarc]

Maybe they are using Iraq for practice before they move on Korea. Maybe they are hoping to invoke Korea to do something stupid.

Just some observational opinions.