OT: Cyber Nation

[Atrocities]

Yes I agree. However people have donated a lot of money to the game and recently lost that entire investment of time and cash in the war that is now raging across cybernation. I have to admit that I look at these guys who have spent real money on this game only to have it blown up or stolen with some measure of disbelief. The desire to become a powerful nation is so compelling to them that they would fork over $20 a month and then trade donation for CN cash and such at the rate of $100.00 a month or more only to see all of their hard work nuked out of existence or raided in war. People who have committed that much time and money to this game really need to take a step back and analyze themselves and their situation. They need to think about this very simple fact: when people who run the game can manipulate war on demand, who risk nothing because what they have is a data base entry and not real work or money like what you have invested, then you should stop, step back, and think about what it is your really spending your real money on. Ask yourself the question; is it worth it?

[capnq]

Atrocities said: when people who run the game [...], who risk nothing because what they have is a data base entry and not real work or money

So, coding the game, and buying and maintaining the hardware and database that supports it, doesn't count as "real work or money"?

They do risk losing income from paying players who have become disillusioned, but there are plenty of newbies around to replace them.

[Santiago]

capnq said:

So, coding the game, and buying and maintaining the hardware and database that supports it, doesn't count as "real work or money"?

They do risk losing income from paying players who have become disillusioned, but there are plenty of newbies around to replace them.

I look at it dimly, as I will not give them money. It's probably a hobby and a cash cow for them to pay for the beer. Realistically they should not manipulate the database for their own gain ie Cheating.

[Beck]

Atrocities said:
I just found out something very interesting. It seems the people who manage the game also play the game and are some of the highest ranking players in the game. And most of them are founding members, if not leaders, of most of the major alliances. And they are the ones who take the game into world war when donations start to fall off. It seems that people become complacent in their cyberspace gaming and need an occasional push. So they manufacture a war where a lot of players loose everything they have invested into the game. When the war is over those hard core players shell out $20.00 a pop and get other players to do the same in trade deals so that they can reconstruct their nations.

It is really quite a brilliant little scheme the owners of cybernation have going. And of course, they don't have to work at rebuilding their nations, they simply edit the data files and PRESTO they are back to full strength.

Ya, sounds like a really fun game to be a part of, that is if you enjoy being conned and manipulated.

I'm not sure where you got your information from. It was common knowledge that mods played the game, but as far as I know, none are involved in running alliances. Several of the largest alliances in the game are definitely not being run by admin or his mods. Admin has had a number of quote test nations, and I believe they are marked as such. His attempt to play like you or I ended in failure when he was attacked by \m/. That nation is was ZI'd and he deleted it. If you're suggesting the current GW3 is some sort of cash cow that he started to get money, why has the donation screen been down for most of the war? Further, today I learned that he will not being accepting donations from this point on. Doesn't sound like someone pulling strings from behind the curtain to me. May be a mute point anyway since someone hacked the game computers and the game is off-line, given all the trouble there has been with the CN forums which have been offline since yesterday and the hacking, I wouldn't blame him if he just shut it all down, or did a reset. Have to see how long it's down.

[Atrocities]

It is sad to see that some people have taken their anger out in such a way. It is wrong to do what they did and I hope that they are identified and either civilly or criminally punished for their acts.

That being said there are a lot of very angry players who have lost a lot of time and money and who are rightfully willing to speak their minds. The word has gotten out about the scam and people are understandably up set.

Regardless, I personally don't have a problem with the game. I would just hope that in the future it be posted, if donations continue, that the investment could be lost and that the game is controlled by players who haven't earned anything, they were given power via data base manipulations.

Of course the game admin would deny this, but the truth is out now and there is little more that can be said.

[Randallw]

Your cynicism is interesting. I have no intention of donating anything anyway but before CN I was playing another game where I did spend some money to gain playing pieces. I haven't played it for a month or so, and I don't regret the money I spent as I didn't spend all that much. I enjoyed the game, but at the moment I have some obligations to carry out instead ie. I need to finish a mod I promised people 6 months ago. Sorry, not a SE mod.

Anyway what I do have to say is that I can't play CN today because the admin has closed it while he deals with some problems. I can understand this under the conditions he mentions, however, and I feel slightly guilty about this, I am paranoid and a cynic, so when he states that his wife has just happened to also have a child right at the same time I start getting suspicious. Has he made this up as an excuse while he messes with things as you seem to imply?. Play on peoples guilt so that if he reboots the game people won't want to be critical. Perhaps I am just too cynical to accept such things at face value .

[GuyOfDoom]

I'm really curious as to why he would even be thinking about Cybernations when supposedly had his first child unless it's somehow related to his income.

[Randallw]

perhaps he's just doing it out of some charitable consideration for other people.



if you didn't get it, that was an attempt at a joke.

[Baron Munchausen]

This is most ironic. I had finally resolved to QUIT and I can't login to do so.

[Combat Wombat]

Baron Munchausen said:
This is most ironic. I had finally resolved to QUIT and I can't login to do so.

If your gonna aid me as much as you can