[OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.

[Thermodyne]

Originally posted by rextorres:

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Originally posted by Thermodyne:

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Originally posted by Wardad:
q: Have you heard the latest 5 day forecast for Baghdad?
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A: Two Days.

I heard that the forecast was for warm sunny weather with a 100% chance of bombs and missiles.

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You guys should be ashamed of yourselves people are dying (both american and iraqi). If your so hot for war what are you doing here!!?

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Talking about things, of which you have no knowledge, only makes you look stupid! Frankly, I am ashamed to be associated with someone like you! Don’t ever take the liberty of speaking about my qualifications; I assure you that I have earned the right to say what is on my mind.

[rextorres]

It still doesn't change the fact that you are making idiotic jokes while people are dying - warmongers like you make me sick. Also you nothing about me . . . so YOU don't go making any assumptions. I think I would know enough that a war initiated by your AWOL president and his chicken hawks is futile.

[ March 23, 2003, 23:05: Message edited by: rextorres ]

[Thermodyne]

Originally posted by rextorres:
It still doesn't change the fact that you are making idiotic jokes while people are dying - warmongers like you make me sick. Also you nothing about me . . . so YOU don't go making any assumptions. I think I would know enough that a war initiated by your AWOL president and his chicken hawks is futile.

I reserve the right to say anything I please about Iraq. If I could trade the lives that were lost in the WTC for Saddam and everyone that supports him, I would do so gladly. I for one am joyous at the sight of Baghdad being bombed. This is long over due. You have no idea why it was not finished the first time, if you did, you would not be posting insults against a man you have never met. You don’t even have the courage and pride to post your location below your sig. As for our American son and daughters that have gone into harms way, I have only pride. And I will mourn everyone that is required to give all. I will not mourn the death of Saddam and his nation, I will take pride in the fact that America and here allies were the ones to send him and his to hell. Never in the history of man has an attack of this scale been conducted with such a small amount of injury to the general population. And we will pay a price in Allied lives for being this restrained in our bombing campaign. So when I make a light hearted post that you don’t care for, just say that I have offended you, don’t take the liberty to tell me how I should feel about it.

I have no mercy for any nation that would shoot POW’s in the head and then display their bodies on TV. These savages will get all that they have coming to them. For the first time in the better part of a decade, America has a president that was not bought and paid for with foreign cash. We have a man that knows the meaning of honor, unlike his opponent who sat in silence while his boss lied to the nation. We have a war of liberation in Iraq, and we will finish it this time. There will also be crude jokes about it, many of which I will enjoy. The fact is that I really don’t give a damn about your feelings on the issue.

[rextorres]

I think your lame reply says it all. Anyone who thinks war is a good thing is evil.

Also it's typical for people to question people's patriotism when they don't support misguided policies.

Some were making fun of me for writing this quote, but you are guilty of what this quote says so I'll repeat it.

"It is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Herman Goering

[ March 24, 2003, 01:08: Message edited by: rextorres ]

[Thermodyne]

I really don’t think that quotes from National Socialists helps your position. Had a nation had the foresight to step on that adoration in the late 30’s the world would have been a lot better off. But the peace keepers had their say, and all but the cowards paid the price. This would be Nazi called Saddam has invaded his Last country, and had his day. His time is over whether you like it or not. I’m sure he can quote Nazi’s just like you do.

[ March 24, 2003, 01:22: Message edited by: Thermodyne ]

[rextorres]

What position doesn't it support?

That your evil for liking war.
That your acting like a Nazi for questioning my patriotism.
Or that W was AWOL for a year in 1972.

[ March 24, 2003, 01:30: Message edited by: rextorres ]

[Wardad]

Hey guys can we cool it. I never wanted a flame war.

Ok, the humor was a bit tasteless, it was also on the radio, and funny. Humor is a ligitimate way of facing concerns, especially when one feels powerless. I make fun of Bush also, but that does not make me an /enaemy of the State any more than my other joke makes me a WarMonger.

I am sorry for the loss of IRAQI lives since gulf war 1. I am sorry for the lives lost when the US encouraged rebellion failed. I understand committments were made to key coalition members and they had to be honored. It still would have been better to finish it then.

I feel honored by the behavior of our troops and the tactics of the ground war that does expose them to more harm. May God protect them.

40% of US citizens believe Sadam had helped the 9/11 terrorists. The is even some indications that Sadam intel spooks also helped with the first WTC bombing.

I will be glad when this Sadam/Iraq business is finally over. I hope the US and Iraq can pick up the pieces and get on with life.

I simply hope Bush has the sense to ignore some of the advice he is getting. I am glad we are taking care of Iraq, but I do not want it to go farther. He will not get my vote.

[Thermodyne]

Rextorres,

I laugh in your face, is that the best that you can do. Evil Nazi is not a description that has ever been used to describe me. And the way you put it makes you sound like an angry child. Don’t you have the courage to come right out and state your opinion of me? I guess we know the answer to that now. And yes I do question your patriotism. I think that there is a good chance that you are nothing more than a coward sitting at a computer, spouting off from a home that is made safe by the sacrifices of others. So until you decide to add some substance to your Posts, I will ignore you, and spend my time enjoying the demise of Saddam.

[ March 24, 2003, 01:47: Message edited by: Thermodyne ]

[Fyron]

Thermo and Rex:
Please take this squabbling to PM. No one wants to see it.

[geoschmo]

This is an official warning now. This has gone way beyond a discussion of the events and is getting extremely personal. You all cool it or this thread will be lockd down.

Geoschmo