Rumor: Kerry & Edwards Want to Ban SEIV

tesco samoa · #1 July 8th, 2004, 02:01 PM

WHAT is ultra liberal...

and this liberal labeling system...

Randallw · #2 July 8th, 2004, 02:09 PM

I'm a liberal (well I vote liberal, I'm not a party member) and I'm not against SEIV or wargames.

AMF · #3 July 8th, 2004, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
With these two, one never knows Randallw, one simply does not know. They freak me out.

Why? Specifics, please.

Randallw · #4 July 8th, 2004, 02:17 PM

Kerry is a war hero. He at least deserves respect for that.

primitive · #5 July 8th, 2004, 02:51 PM

There are some slasher, torture and rape games in circulation (not sold over the counter anywhere I think) which are stretching the �freedom of speech� a bit far according to my taste.

Randallw · #6 July 8th, 2004, 02:54 PM

yes: wargames and simulations are ok
NO: I hear of sex games (though I've never seen any) which I see no need for.

Gandalf Parker · #7 July 8th, 2004, 03:04 PM

Being "in favor of" could mean that some reporter asked "Would you be in favor of limiting the sales of graphically violent games to children" and they answered "yes".

Thats quite abit off from a bill being brought to the houses for a vote. Its the wording of such bills that need to be watched. Definetly, if you see anything along those lines, let us know. We might need a letter-writing campaign. I know of alot of companys, game communitys, newsGroups, and wargaming conventions that would be VERY interested in making sure that such a bill doesnt slip thru unnoticed.

rdouglass · #8 July 8th, 2004, 03:09 PM

Censorship in almost any degree is IMO a bad thing. If we don't want our kids to play violent video games or see objectionable content on TV, both of these things (as well as most other media)have an ON/OFF switch. Consenting adults should be able to view anything that doesn't violate the personal rights of others (kiddie porn, etc.).

Now whether that stuff should be sold to minors, well that's quite a different thing entirely.

AMF · #9 July 8th, 2004, 03:28 PM

SO, into this discussion let's inject the Patriot Act. It is the other side of the coin, no?

That is, on the one hand it is alleged (falsely, I think) that Kerry is going to censor games - which would be one type of restriction of personal liberty. But the Patriot Act is one of the greatest invasions of privacy/liberty the US has ever known.

Discuss. [grin]

Aiken · #10 July 8th, 2004, 03:39 PM

Computer games industry is a business that worth a billions. Assume 30-50% of games contain violence etc, and it's still billions of $$$. Banning them is equal to banning cigarettes containing nicotine(sp?). This law won't be supported by industry leaders and it means it has no chances.