How to kick A$$ in Warp point combat.

DavidG · #1 November 18th, 2003, 12:05 AM

So you got a key warp point you want to go through? But you know it is heavily defended on the other side. What to do? Wouldn't it be nice if you could go through and shoot first? Well that's what I just managed to do.

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primitive · #2 November 18th, 2003, 01:16 AM

Sssssshhh.

Don't spill it

geoschmo · #3 November 18th, 2003, 01:19 AM

I'd like to know how you can do it consistantly.

Fyron · #4 November 18th, 2003, 01:20 AM

Get there before the enemy.

Or just benefit from random flukes of SE4 that put ships separated sometimes (especially with multiple empires instead of just 2 in the combat).

Even better is to close that WP down and create a new one to bypass those defenses.

DavidG · #5 November 18th, 2003, 02:15 AM

Damn. now this would be a lot more impressive if I could recreate it in a test.
I thought the trick was to give my fleet 'attack' orders instead of 'warp' orders to get to the other side. Since I had a scout on the other side of the warp I did this and my ships attacked first. They enemy fleet was just sitting there so it's not like they moved into the warp point after I did.

Edit. And we did start right next each other.

[ November 18, 2003, 00:15: Message edited by: DavidG ]

Roanon · #6 November 18th, 2003, 07:33 AM

Just one more of these randomly striking battle-deciding bugs, I guess. Like strategies that keep being ignored sometimes. A pity that SEIV is not being patched any more, but I do hope for SEV and a better basic design, without dropping a lot of good features, i.e. a better upgrade than from SEIII to SEIV.

Captain Kwok · #7 November 18th, 2003, 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by Roanon:
Just one more of these randomly striking battle-deciding bugs, I guess. Like strategies that keep being ignored sometimes. A pity that SEIV is not being patched any more, but I do hope for SEV and a better basic design, without dropping a lot of good features, i.e. a better upgrade than from SEIII to SEIV.

You are mistaken, there is a final patch for SE4 underway.

Fyron · #8 November 18th, 2003, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by Roanon:
Just one more of these randomly striking battle-deciding bugs, I guess. Like strategies that keep being ignored sometimes. A pity that SEIV is not being patched any more, but I do hope for SEV and a better basic design, without dropping a lot of good features, i.e. a better upgrade than from SEIII to SEIV.

SEIV had radical changes from SEIII, actually. It drove half of the die-hard SEIII fans away (at least, half of the vocal ones in the Online community).

[ November 18, 2003, 05:49: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Puke · #9 November 18th, 2003, 11:15 AM

its all a very complicated model of morale effects and the chaos of battle. sometimes those guys warping through will catch the defender off guard. sometimes crews will fail to perfectly execute their orders, and will not follow the correct strategies. why do you insist that its a bug, when its actually one of the most realistic models of space combat available?

okay, your right. its a bug. but if they SPUN it differently in the manual and press material, it would be a FEATURE.

DavidG · #10 November 18th, 2003, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Puke:
its all a very complicated model of morale effects and the chaos of battle. sometimes those guys warping through will catch the defender off guard. sometimes crews will fail to perfectly execute their orders, and will not follow the correct strategies. why do you insist that its a bug, when its actually one of the most realistic models of space combat available?

Yea I like this explaination. I mean when I did it it just made sense. I could see the ships on the other side of the warp. He cold not see me comming. He'd been sitting there for 4 months. My ships all had 'attack' orders. Of course they should shoot first.