global enchantments when there are 5 already?

Crazy · #1 July 2nd, 2006, 12:35 AM

Here is the scenario:

There were 4 enchantments and I cast one.

Next turn. An opponent casts a global enchantment which takes effect(5 total now). I get a message saying that my enchantment is cast but when I check it is not there.

If there are 5 and an enchantment is cast, is there a dispel attempt for one of the 5 current globals or is one of the 5 randomly replaced by the new one being cast??

Thanks.

Wish · #2 July 2nd, 2006, 01:46 AM

there is a dispel attempt. Usually the weakest of the globals is dispelled.

Folket · #3 July 7th, 2006, 08:52 AM

I think the sixth enchantment will challange a random enchantment unless there is an identical enchantment up allready.

The enchantment that is most empowered will win the challange. There might be some small random factor here.

Agrajag · #4 July 7th, 2006, 09:08 AM

Doesn't Luck scale play a role here?

Folket · #5 July 7th, 2006, 10:19 AM

Well, at least luck plays a role.

Graeme Dice · #6 July 7th, 2006, 10:35 AM

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Agrajag said:
Doesn't Luck scale play a role here?

The luck scale has absolutely no effect on dispelling globals.

Ygorl · #7 July 7th, 2006, 12:14 PM

If I remember correctly (a forum search that I'm too lazy to do could corroborate), each spell gets 1d6 open-ended, with the high roll winning. To each roll is added the number of extra gems spent on the spell (above the normal cost - if you're using a site that decreases the cost, it starts counting from the *full* cost of the spell, not the reduced cost, so the site is useless if you want to add extra gems) and the caster's extra magic levels in the appropriate kind of magic.

archaeolept · #8 July 9th, 2006, 12:44 PM

^^ I believe that is the correct formula. I once empowered my caster to a modded 14 astral str just to get an extra +3 or so on the roll, w/ max gems

1. if the global you cast is already up, it will compete w/ that one

2. if not, it will compete w/ one of yours that is already up.

3. if you don't have any, i believe it will compete w/ a random one.

4. sometimes it doesn't seem to act according to these rules - the situation has always seemed a bit buggy

capnq · #9 July 9th, 2006, 01:32 PM

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archaeolept said: 2. if not, it will compete w/ one of yours that is already up.

I hope you are mistaken about this. If true, it seems like a really poor design decision.

archaeolept · #10 July 9th, 2006, 01:34 PM

dunno what's poor about it... other than it irritates the player - but if you got rid of elements that cause trouble for the players, that's like half of Dominions

generally, to support a claim that something is a poor design decision, it is considered polite to actually provide some argument...