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July 12th, 2004, 07:38 AM
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OT POLL: Do Nice Guys Finish Last??
Well, the subject pretty much says it all...do nice guys finish Last when it comes to love, life, and...well...the rest of stuff??
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July 12th, 2004, 08:48 AM
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Re: OT POLL: Do Nice Guys Finish Last??
Nice guy as in rollover and beg
Or nice guy as in a bit of a bastard if you dont get yorue way but nice to women
Or nice guy im gay and im nice to women cause i wanna shop and gossip with em ?
I know nice guys lose in SE4 unless they make peace the winning option.
In SE4 always have at least 1 war going.
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July 12th, 2004, 10:24 AM
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Re: OT POLL: Do Nice Guys Finish Last??
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July 12th, 2004, 11:38 AM
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Re: OT POLL: Do Nice Guys Finish Last??
In all seriousness nice guys finish first. It may seem from time to time that I lose or get screwed or ...some other negative outcome. I say:
"What goes around comes arround"
You go through life being a jerk it will come back to you 3 fold. Go through life being a nice guy and you will enjoy your life 3 fold.
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July 12th, 2004, 12:08 PM
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Re: OT POLL: Do Nice Guys Finish Last??
Q1: What women want.. Men that are good on the outside and bad on the inside. So if you're nice on both sides you loose.
Q2: Nice at work.. The nice guys at work will be mashed like ripe potatos, taken advantage of and never climb the corporate ladder. You need greed to succeed in business and without it (Being Nice) you're destined to fail. (or stay at your current level forever)
Q3: Everywhere else.. There was a time when being 'nice' was normal, now it's such a rare phenomenon that it's newsworthy. Society is not 'nice' and 'nice' is slowly being removed from life as we know it. If everyone was 'nice' you could leave your car unlocked and still find it where you left it. (providing it didn't get towed')
With that said, I'm 'nice' and proud of it. What a strange poll.
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July 12th, 2004, 03:28 PM
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Re: OT POLL: Do Nice Guys Finish Last??
I'm with Gryphin on this one.
When I was growing up, I saw lots of girls I found attractive and interesting who seemed only to have eyes for guys that treated them like dirt (or substitute another 4-letter word). I never understood it especially when they could have been with ME .
My wife was married 3 times before me. Two were "bad boys" and the 3rd a bible-thumper (she just knew someone she met at church would be the right guy ). No marriage Lasted more than 4 years and, averaging, they Lasted about 2 and a half. We've been together for 8 years. Though 15 years younger, she is now mature enough to realize being treated nicely leads to much more happiness than what she settled for in the past. Oh, don't get me wrong, we still dabble in some "bad" excitement but I don't treat her like dirt.
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July 12th, 2004, 03:36 PM
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Re: OT POLL: Do Nice Guys Finish Last??
Another comment:
I'm not rich (though, I suspect, some people struggling to make a living might disagree after seeing our house and lifestyle). I'd say I'm well off. So, as to the question about nice guys finishing Last in the workplace (where the money is made), I'll say there are those who are much more ambitious than I am and who are willing to step on people to climb that "ladder". But I like to sleep well at night. And more money in exchange for that sleep just isn't worth it to me.
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July 12th, 2004, 03:48 PM
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Re: OT POLL: Do Nice Guys Finish Last??
Well, I think it is safe to say that nice guys generally finish Last in SEIV and politics in general. I am almost exclusively a cooperative/non-zero-sum type of player, building alliances, gifting tech freely, helping others out in SEIV...and I don't think I've won a PBW game yet...my fault, of course. I also suck at ship design and micro-managing, which doesn't help.
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July 12th, 2004, 04:20 PM
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Re: OT POLL: Do Nice Guys Finish Last??
In response to David E. Gervais's comment:
I'd like to say that I DO leave my cars unlocked, and no one takes them, so HAH to you! Then again, most of them don't work anyway, but the big reason is I live in a little town where no one locks anything (except school lockers).
Anyway, to the point. As a "nice guy" I can safely say that in SEIV, it will get you beaten around pretty badly by someone more cruel
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July 12th, 2004, 04:56 PM
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Re: OT POLL: Do Nice Guys Finish Last??
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Originally posted by alarikf:
Well, I think it is safe to say that nice guys generally finish Last in SEIV and politics in general. I am almost exclusively a cooperative/non-zero-sum type of player, building alliances, gifting tech freely, helping others out in SEIV...and I don't think I've won a PBW game yet...my fault, of course. I also suck at ship design and micro-managing, which doesn't help.
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I hear ya, "Deccan" (smile). 1 x 1 games are OK because everyone (both people) have agreed at the beginning to be enemies. But in a multi-game, I find it hard to choose an enemy when it needs to be done for expansion's sake. I usually look to who has treated me the worst. In your case, as you know, we settled out pretty well. So, I think we are similar in this regard .
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