2 questions on blood sacrifice

tinkthank · #1 April 14th, 2004, 10:20 AM

After perusing the older threads on this subject and having read the excellent dominion spread guide (whose link I no longer have...), I have these questions:

1. In order for a person to sacrifice, he must be in a province with a temple and must have at least 1 blood slave in his personal gem box. If you try to give him or her the command without those slaves, the warning message appears. After having sacrificed on the subsequent turn, that person will have less slaves in his or her possession, possibly zero (depending on how many s/he had been given). I would like to consider the scenario where s/he has none remaining.
Now if you do not change orders for that person (that is: the command "perform blood sacrifice" stays up), you will receive no error message. My question is: is this similar to what happens when you set a, say, level 2 priest to "preach" in a province with a temple and then forget about him? That is: At some point, your dominion hits 4 or more, but the priest will keep preaching; if you manually order him to preach, you will get the warning message.
I would like to rephrase the question: Apparently, if you order your Blood Sacrificer to sacrifice when in a province *with a lab*, s/he will automatically suck out more slaves from the lab. This is what has been said in other Posts. But I am unsure. You will see his or her gem slots still be empty, and there is no real way to see if dominion rises due to sacrifice or due to a normal temple check. How many slaves are replaced, if any, when
So is there anyway to find out how "replacing blood slaves" / performing blood sacrifices over multiple turns really works?
Thanks much

2. Can someone tell me if I have understood this correctly? Blood sacrifice works much like extra, manually induced temple checks. That is, the blood sacrificer performing the ritual will induce 1 extra temple check per blood slave sacrificed. And *that* means: Unlike preaching, this can affect dominion spread even when the dominion is higher than that priest's level. And *that* means: blood sacrifice *can* make sense *even* when dominion has reached its maximum (10) in a province (for example: when the neighboring provinces are under 10) by affecting its neighbors, although there may be more meaningful things to do with those slaves, but whatever. Am I right so far? Now if the neighboring provinces of a temple are also all 10, will the temple check spread then spread to *those* neighbors (much like I feel that the home capital spreads dominion)? Thanks in advance

Yossar · #2 April 14th, 2004, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by tinkthank:
So is there anyway to find out how "replacing blood slaves" / performing blood sacrifices over multiple turns really works?
Thanks much

You can see the number of slaves decrease so you can verify that it's working. It will attempt to replace the number of slaves you sacrificed the turn before. If you have enough it works fine, if you have none he stops, but I'm not totally sure on what happens if you have some but not enough.

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2. Can someone tell me if I have understood this correctly? Blood sacrifice works much like extra, manually induced temple checks. That is, the blood sacrificer performing the ritual will induce 1 extra temple check per blood slave sacrificed. And *that* means: Unlike preaching, this can affect dominion spread even when the dominion is higher than that priest's level. And *that* means: blood sacrifice *can* make sense *even* when dominion has reached its maximum (10) in a province (for example: when the neighboring provinces are under 10) by affecting its neighbors, although there may be more meaningful things to do with those slaves, but whatever. Am I right so far? Now if the neighboring provinces of a temple are also all 10, will the temple check spread then spread to *those* neighbors (much like I feel that the home capital spreads dominion)? Thanks in advance

Yes, I believe that is correct. I'm not sure exactly how it spreads but dominion can definitely pass through provinces.

tinkthank · #3 April 14th, 2004, 02:30 PM

Thanks very much.
I can see the number of slaves decreasing, but that only means he is sacrificing, not that he is getting new ones from the pool to replaced those sacrificed. (Right?)
But thanks so far.

1000yd_stare · #4 April 14th, 2004, 02:39 PM

as i understand it, after the first turn, where you manually placed the blood slaves in his gem box, he will not sacrifice any more, UNLESS there is also a lab in the province.
If there is a lab, then the priest will, on his own initiative, get the same number of blood slaves as you had given him previously from the lab and sacrifice them. He will continue to do this until no slaves, or a change of orders.

Maltrease · #5 April 14th, 2004, 02:58 PM

I am pretty sure the priest will auto pull as many slaves as he is capable of sacrificing at the beginning of the turn, if there is a lab present.

However if you later remove the slaves from him, such as clicking on the pool button in your lab then he will not sacrifice any slaves for that turn. It took me a while to figure out why my dominion was not growing after I was pooling my slaves every turn for other uses.

[ April 14, 2004, 13:59: Message edited by: Maltrease ]

Chris Byler · #6 April 14th, 2004, 09:36 PM

Does he pull as many as he is capable of sacrificing, or sacrifice all he has and then pull as many as he sacrificed?

In other words, if I give a level 3 priest 2 slaves and set him on blood sacrifice will it make him sacrifice 2 slaves/month (if I didn't feel I could afford the slave cost of using his full power and didn't have a level 2 priest handy)?

Maltrease · #7 April 14th, 2004, 09:51 PM

I can't say for certain without testing again. But If I guessed I would say he would pull as many as he is capable of using.

Yossar · #8 April 14th, 2004, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by tinkthank:
Thanks very much.
I can see the number of slaves decreasing, but that only means he is sacrificing, not that he is getting new ones from the pool to replaced those sacrificed. (Right?)
But thanks so far.

Well, it's fairly easy to test and I just did. If he's in a temple with a lab, after he sacrifices he'll automatically restock with the maximum number of slaves he can sacrifice in one turn or however many are left if you don't have that many slaves. You can see the slaves on him after the turn so you can tell it's working.

Nephelim · #9 April 14th, 2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by Yossar:
If he's in a temple with a lab, after he sacrifices he'll automatically restock with the maximum number of slaves he can sacrifice in one turn or however many are left if you don't have that many slaves.

Now, if we could get hunters to auto-drop slaves in a lab if one is in the province, the cycle would be complete

Not that it's -terribly- hard to select them and Shift-z, but if you have hunters in many provinces, you can easily forget a few...