drain life has no MR check??

[rabelais]

Is there any defense against it at all?

It seems like if you are going to have a prec 100 armor negating, fatigue restoring, no-MR SC killer, that death magic is not the place for it.

The path is VERY strong already, and it's not like ermor (and most casters with 0 enc) needs the help.


Rabe, hoist on his own assassinating petard.

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by rabelais:
Is there any defense against it at all?

Yes. Lifelessness.

[rabelais]

Heh. Does that defend against it, or just deny fatigue restoral to the caster?

I wouldn't be surprised if it still damages/kills.

Bloody Hell, Ermor gets all the breaks.


Rabe the Drained of Enthusiasm

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by rabelais:
It seems like if you are going to have a prec 100 armor negating, fatigue restoring, no-MR SC killer, that death magic is not the place for it.

Feels like it belongs in Death Magic to me. It causes *DEATH* after all. Where *ELSE* does it belong?

And generally, trying to kill Dusk Elders is way more trouble than it's worth. A Dusk Elder has a better than 50/50 shot of surviving even an Earth Attack, unassisted. With a few Ghosts as bodyguards, those odds rise to pretty much certainty. Anything you could equip on a regular assassin that would let you kill Dusk Elders would cost you more than the Dusk Elder!

And you still risk being potted by a Drain Life.

[NTJedi]

Originally posted by Norfleet:

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Originally posted by rabelais:
It seems like if you are going to have a prec 100 armor negating, fatigue restoring, no-MR SC killer, that death magic is not the place for it.

Feels like it belongs in Death Magic to me. It causes *DEATH* after all. Where *ELSE* does it belong?

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Perhaps it would seem more natural to come from blood magic or at least mixed with blood magic. Since Blood is the essence of life... and the spell is drain life.

Originally posted by Norfleet
It causes *DEATH* after all.

There's lots of spells from all schools of magic which cause death.

[Cheezeninja]

It belongs in Death because if you harken back to the days of Magic The Gathering you will remember it was a black magic spell. That provides all the justification necessary to make it death magic.

*cough*

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by NTJedi:
Perhaps it would seem more natural to come from blood magic or at least mixed with blood magic. Since Blood is the essence of life... and the spell is drain life.

That spell exists also, called "Leeching Touch".

[Jack Simth]

Of course, that particular game (compared to Dominions) also merged fire with earth, air with water and astral, and, incidentally, blood and death.

[NTJedi]

Originally posted by Norfleet:

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Originally posted by NTJedi:
Perhaps it would seem more natural to come from blood magic or at least mixed with blood magic. Since Blood is the essence of life... and the spell is drain life.

That spell exists also, called "Leeching Touch".

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There's quite a difference between Leeching Touch and Drain Life. A range difference of about 20... making one a ranged attack and the other more of a melee attack.

[Vynd]

Nevertheless, it does seem rather remarkable that there is absolutely no way for a living creature to defend against Drain Life. And wasn't there another thread floating around somewhere pointing out that Drain Life fatigues its target even when it misses?