is there a item / permanent spell / summon to make priests stealthy ?

[Boron]

do only man / pangenea / marignon profit from their stealth priests or can you make stealth priests as other nations too via items / special spells ?
because i wanna try a sgermor game and so stealth priests would come in very handy for my many immortals
it would be slow but totally riskless
but my unholy priests can't preach so if i would summon a holy priest summon can it then preach my faith ?

[Blitz]

nothing makes you stealthy

[Boron]

hm is this then a very big advantage for marignon/pangenea ?

especially marignon DF still has lvl 2 stealth priests + the lvl 4 inquisitors which count lvl 8 for preaching . so you should be able to spread dominion quite quickly to neighboring provinces and because you can bloodhunt you should have access to vampire counts quite quick . so you should be able to attack adjacent enemy provinces every 3-5 turns without risk with your vampire counts or ? because to build a temple and preach the dominion high again with inqisitors + stealth priests in adjacent provinces needs around 3-5 turns or ?

would this probably work in mp quite ok too ?

[PvK]

You can do that, though there are countermeasures such as doing their own preaching, patrolling, and other activities not linked to dominion.

There is the stone idol item (reduces all dominion), dominion types which alter the spread mechanics a bit, and there are some other nations with interesting preachers.

PvK

[Taqwus]

Even the Ashen Empire could hire an independent druid (nature-2, holy-2, stealthy), but AE is likely to have better uses for its minimal gold.

[LintMan]

One thing you can do is to recruit/summon a stealthy unit (ie: a indy scout, dusk elder, or harvester of sorrows), and make that unit your prophet.

Then you'll have a stealth prophet that spreads dominion without needing to preach. (And if it's a Harvester of Sorrows, it'll also spread disease in you enemy's provinces as well.)

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Boron:
especially marignon DF still has lvl 2 stealth priests + the lvl 4 inquisitors which count lvl 8 for preaching .

They only count as level 8 when in enemy dominion. As soon as the dominion is positive, they go back to level 4 priests.

so you should be able to spread dominion quite quickly to neighboring provinces and because you can bloodhunt you should have access to vampire counts quite quick.

Dominion from preaching does not spread to neighbouring provinces. Only dominion from temples, your prophet, and your pretender does will spread.

[Boron]

thnx for the suggestions
@ lintman the harvester of sorrow idea is nice
the stone idol item is this a unique artifact or something else ?

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Originally posted by Boron:
especially marignon DF still has lvl 2 stealth priests + the lvl 4 inquisitors which count lvl 8 for preaching .

They only count as level 8 when in enemy dominion. As soon as the dominion is positive, they go back to level 4 priests.

oops misread that that makes them less effective i even think not worth buying with their huge price

so you should be able to spread dominion quite quickly to neighboring provinces and because you can bloodhunt you should have access to vampire counts quite quick.

Dominion from preaching does not spread to neighbouring provinces. Only dominion from temples, your prophet, and your pretender does will spread.

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i meant the lvl 2 stealth priests which marignon does have

but in general i think my strat is not very likely to work now because spreading dominion in enemy territory is hard as i notice in my curent testgame

i only built the juggernaut once so far and can't remember can it move or not ? in the very good scqr it is listed with 1 strategic movement but i thought when i built it it had 0 movement .


but in general a better use for the immortals is using them in counterattacks or ?
because you have very likely no or only very few enemy provinces with your domain and risking them there before you are sure you have won and just need to wipe out your enemies totally is not so good or ?

[LintMan]

Originally posted by Boron:
thnx for the suggestions
@ lintman the harvester of sorrow idea is nice
the stone idol item is this a unique artifact or something else ?

Thanks, Boron. I'm tempted to let my current prophet "have an accident" so I can try it out in my current game.

Stone Idols not artifacts; they are Const-6, and cost 10Earth/10Astral. Make as many as you like, but remember they will lower your dominion as well if you accidentally forget one there.

Also, Juggernauts do have a strat-move of 1, definitely. I put a couple in one of my armies in an Arco game I was playing. The only problem is the Jug's combat move is so slow that the rest of my army kept bypassing them and finisheing the battle before the jugs got involved. Perhaps if I put the jugs way out in front by themselves, or had a weaker overall army they would have been more useful in combat.