So why do I try?

[Huzurdaddi]

So why do I try to use communion?

Why?

You have can as many casters scripted for releif as you want. After 5 turns have passed those shaman are going to do their own thing. And then all of your communincants are going to die.

Is thyere any wonder that all of the "l33t" players think that the only spells worth casting are battle field spells?

Would it be so much to ask for a command which would be "CAST THIS SPELL NO MATTER WHAT FROM NOW ON?"

So sad.

Well communion is off my list for whatever game I play in the future.

[Huzurdaddi]

Oh and if anyone wants pythium in "newbies_unite" give me a ring on this message.

It's going computer in one day.

Also if you want Vanehiem in Fareun Folly give me a ring.

Both have the largest land masses of anyone on the map, if that counts for anything.

But both are somewhat weak in SC's. And as we all know SC's are the game.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
So why do I try to use communion?

Because it gives you an enormous boost in the amount of spells that can be cast and the power of these spells that is impossible to achieve in any other way.

You have can as many casters scripted for releif as you want. After 5 turns have passed those shaman are going to do their own thing. And then all of your communincants are going to die.

I take it that you didn't have enough communicants then. If you didn't have a bare minimum of 4 or 5 per master then you are going to lose them in any given battle. They are expendable anyways, so it's not as if you've suffered a major loss when they die.

[Huzurdaddi]

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A 5 to 1 ratio would have died in the battle I just saw. A 10 to 1 ratio would probably have died. Perhaps a 20 to 1 ratio MAY have lived. AMAZING!

However if the mass of shaman had continued to cast releif they would have all survived without a scratch.

[ August 05, 2004, 06:54: Message edited by: Zen ]

[Graeme Dice]

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A 5 to 1 ratio would have died in the battle I just saw. A 10 to 1 ratio would probably have died. Perhaps a 20 to 1 ratio MAY have lived. AMAZING!

You've provided absolutely no useful information about how many communion masters you had, what type they were, how many slaves you had, how long the battle Lasted, or anything else. I assumed that you didn't have enough communicants, since that's obviously the case if they aren't bringing the fatigue cost for a spell down to 1 per cast.

However if the mass of shaman had continued to cast releif they would have all survived without a scratch.

Which would hardly be balanced now, would it. If you didn't take any risks when you used communion, then there would be no reason to play anything other than Pythium.

[ August 05, 2004, 06:55: Message edited by: Zen ]

[Skolem]

Oh and if anyone wants pythium in "newbies_unite" give me a ring on this message.

It's going computer in one day.

Also if you want Vanehiem in Fareun Folly give me a ring.

If you really want a replacement could you post a new hread who says that clearly, or change the title of this one to something like "need a replacement"
It would make it clearer.
For the newbies_unite (who isn't really newbieish), please wait for a replacement it would seriously hurt the game if you go to AI
Skolem

[Cohen]

I'd agree with Skolem about the replacement.
Since you're the major power, and for what I've seen you're bashing your enemies.
Even with some loss.

I've tried Pyth in single player, and I've had the same problem ...

Simply Shaman isn't so good to cast relief after having casted Comm Master.
The AI seems to be scripted to cast any buff he can before anything else.
So a communioned Shaman get astral shield, astral weapon, protection/barskin, etc etc ... wasting a huge amount of turns in casting buffs only.

I believe however communion is wonderful, and allows you to cast spells that usually you can't.

[Soapyfrog]

In the same vein of "why do I try"

Why would my arch devil cast firestorm with less gems than I gave him for the purpose (he used 7 of the 10, after casting phoenix power... oh and he is wearing a flame helmet so the net result is F6).

Basically he cast it and knocked himself out, dumb blighter, when he could have used the rest fo the gems and come out of it with less than 100 fatigue. Grrr. Well obviously there is something I do not understand!

And then this souped up Golem tanked my 110 devils and killed another arch devil in hand to hand. Damn. And my arch devil had a hell sword, armour of souls, boots of quickness, rings of frost and tamed lightning and a flame helmet and yet he continually missed 75% of his strikes until the golem turned on him and killed him with two blows. Geez! Although i did shave him down to less than 20 HP, if my other archie hadnt knocked himself out casting firestorm I am sure I would have had him.

God this game can be frustrating when you can lose such a powerful force to a single Golem...

[Agrajag]

Originally posted by Soapyfrog:
In the same vein of "why do I try"

Why would my arch devil cast firestorm with less gems than I gave him for the purpose (he used 7 of the 10, after casting phoenix power... oh and he is wearing a flame helmet so the net result is F6).

Basically he cast it and knocked himself out, dumb blighter, when he could have used the rest fo the gems and come out of it with less than 100 fatigue. Grrr. Well obviously there is something I do not understand!

And then this souped up Golem tanked my 110 devils and killed another arch devil in hand to hand. Damn. And my arch devil had a hell sword, armour of souls, boots of quickness, rings of frost and tamed lightning and a flame helmet and yet he continually missed 75% of his strikes until the golem turned on him and killed him with two blows. Geez! Although i did shave him down to less than 20 HP, if my other archie hadnt knocked himself out casting firestorm I am sure I would have had him.

God this game can be frustrating when you can lose such a powerful force to a single Golem...

Try a huge army of Avalon Knights routing because this stupid commander decided to rout after getting hit with an arrow >_<

[Cohen]

How was the golem equipped?