[feature request] Minimum XP for Hall of Fame

Ironhawk · #1 October 2nd, 2004, 08:48 PM

I constantly find myself frustrated with HoF entries in the opening turn of a Dom2 game. All these terrible commanders like scouts or weak commanders end up getting nice heroic abilities. To make it a more reasonable distribution of heoric abilities, I suggest that there be a minimum XP required for entrance into the HoF, say 10.

deccan · #2 October 2nd, 2004, 09:42 PM

Since I've been running tests on Gandalf's minimap, I've found that commanders get into the HOF just by existing, getting heroic abilities that skews the test results. Having a minimum XP for HOF eligibility would help here too.

Cohen · #3 October 2nd, 2004, 09:44 PM

Receiving a related Heroic Ability should be nice too.
Not so happy to see my Mage getting heroic prowess, or such.

Arryn · #4 October 2nd, 2004, 09:48 PM

A thought just occurred to me: can you wish for Heroic Abilities?

The Panther · #5 October 2nd, 2004, 11:36 PM

I also am annoyed by pretenders using up slots and geting zip for it. Why don't they get something at least?

For instance, pretenders could get additional dominion influence as they climb up the HoF, for isn't that what being famous is all about?

Arryn · #6 October 2nd, 2004, 11:43 PM

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The Panther said:
I also am annoyed by pretenders using up slots and geting zip for it. Why don't they get something at least?

You're not going to like this answer: why should they? They're deities (or wannabes). It can be argued that heroic abilities are divinely granted. Who's going to grant a deity a divinely-connected power? Certainly not one of the other pretenders. Who's that leave? No one.

Thufir · #7 October 2nd, 2004, 11:58 PM

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The Panther said:
I also am annoyed by pretenders using up slots and geting zip for it. Why don't they get something at least?

For instance, pretenders could get additional dominion influence as they climb up the HoF, for isn't that what being famous is all about?

I have no problems with Pretenders not getting any bonus for HOF, after all they're not heroes, they're Gods! (Or, at least wannabe Gods). Seriously, in terms of game mechanics, they get plenty of benefits already.

What I *would* favor (and have heard requested often enough before), is to exclude Pretenders from the HOF list, so they don't burn up a slot on the list. That sounds like it wouldn't even be too hard to implement. Then, extending the request a bit, I like the suggestion I heard once to put the kill/experience stats of Pretenders on the Pretender list (the one that comes up w/ F4).

On the question of a minimal experience level for the list I'd be in favor of that, but OTOH, it doesn't sound too urgent to me. After all, any commanders that get a heroic ability in the first few turns won't get much of a benefit from it, since the size of the bonus depends upon how long you stay on the list.

The Last thing I'll mention (which I've mentioned before, and is probably a nit, anyhow), is that I'd love to see Orion's experience brought down to normal levels. For some reason it just bugs me to see an indy merc permanently pegged at the top of the list.

Cohen · #8 October 3rd, 2004, 12:09 AM

Well, I'd agree with Thurfir.
However Orion should have access to the HoF since it's a great commander.
I'd better however see the Mercs dead, to stay with the flag of the Nations that owned them when they died. So you can Ritual of Rebirth them later (if they're still present).

Thufir · #9 October 3rd, 2004, 12:56 AM

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Cohen said:
However Orion should have access to the HoF since it's a great commander.

I'm not saying Orion should be excluded, I'm just suggesting that Orion should be setup w/ maybe 100 - 200xp, instead of 1000xp (maybe this is moddable?). In this way, it would at least be possible to pass him up in a reasonable number of turns, and he wouldn't be permanently affixed to the top of the HOF list.

Ironhawk · #10 October 4th, 2004, 05:53 PM

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Thufir said:
I have no problems with Pretenders not getting any bonus for HOF

Me neither. Doing so could pose balance issues cause they are already such high value units.

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What I *would* favor (and have heard requested often enough before), is to exclude Pretenders from the HOF list ... and to put the kill/experience stats of Pretenders on the Pretender list (the one that comes up w/ F4).

Sounds good. If the pretender XP/Kills is moved to the F4 screen then no data is lost.

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On the question of a minimal experience level for the list I'd be in favor of that, but OTOH, it doesn't sound too urgent to me. After all, any commanders that get a heroic ability in the first few turns won't get much of a benefit from it, since the size of the bonus depends upon how long you stay on the list.

No, its not urgent. Just a pet peeve of mine that I didnt think would be a huge fix. Something really simple that could be tossed in the next Version which would result in (IMO) a remarkably better distribution of heroic abilities.