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Old May 17th, 2001, 06:40 AM

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Hello everyone.

Usualy i play the quiet person in the game, who sits in the middle of the scores.

Well, in my Last game went on an attack on the enemy. The most advanced ship i ever saw was dreadnought with XII APBs and lvl III Ion Engines (no shields or sensors..).

And now im looking for an AI who will be able to beat me... (never lost any war..)

ANy suggestions?

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Old May 17th, 2001, 06:55 AM

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Try my mod using your shipset =)
You might be surprised at how advanced things can get.
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Old May 17th, 2001, 08:59 AM

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Have you tried the Rage? In the Last few games I've played in a large galaxy they've racked up well over a million pts, 4.5 mill in one case. A good challenge although I'm starting to get overwhelmed by them. It's getting to the point where I feel like Terrans did in the Starfire universe fighting the Arachnid Omnivoracity.
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Definitly try the Rage, they are a good enemy! Most of the TDM-ModPack races are a good shot as well, esp the Xi'Chung!(usually no 1 in the scores)...If your into something different try my Y'Gathian Free States (they use crystal/organic tech) or my Version of the Borg, both in the downloads section.

As always for a challenge start with med tech, high AI bonus and low bonus for AI resources (or med if you are truely in for a challenge)....This gives the AI less 'theory' techs to research and more weapons/armour etc....set the Tech research to low cost and away you go!

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I've been playing games with the max systems set at 100, large map, low starting tech level, med tech cost, high difficulty, and low AI bonus, with 2000 RP. Then I select the Colonials, Klingons, Norak, narn, Earth Alliance, Pyrochette, Rage, Romulan, Piudon, Sergetti, Xi'Chung from the TDM-Modpack, Q's CueCappa and Phong, the Atraikians and Zorians so I can continue to evaluate and improve them, 1 or 2 from some friends, and then fill in the 20 players with some of the more recent sets from here.

Every one of them has been very brutal, with at least one race being eliminated by turn 50 (other than any I take out), and have found that unless I'm using a playing style that I'm very comfortable with I have to struggle to stay in the top ten, and am frequently faced with AI races that have a good 20 tech levels on me. When I am using a syle that I am very comfortable with, I typically stay between 4th - 10th place and am only slightly behind on tech. One of the things I've found with this set up is the aggresiveness of the races selected makes it almost impossible to stay out of wars to build up, your continuously draining your resources to nothing in order to hold your borders. The peaceful races seem to get hit the worst because for some reason the psychotic races don't seem to like them (have never seen either the Rage or the Zorians make friends with them, yet I've seen the Zorians with a trade alliance with the Rage and military alliance with the AE while all three pounded the Phong to a pulp)
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Im not looking for a bloodbath, but for realistic game with smart opponents.
Guess i'll be downloading the Rage, TDM mod and the Devnulmod soon...

Thanks everyone!
(BTW, in my first message, the dreadnought with APBs and Ion Engines III was EEE's best fleet, which i took accidently with my four cruisers :-\, what made them easy prey for everyone else..poor EEE )

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Maybe blood bath was the wrong term. You do get right into the action though. You diplomacy and combat skills will be tested immediately.
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Definately try the races suggested.
You may want to try this type of set up for a real blood bath. It makes for a fun game once in a while.
Small quadrent 100K starting resources, good homeworld, 10 planets, any starting tech level, only colonize your home planet type, all races have same planet type for homeworld, 5000 points (only use 2-3k for yourself), no nuetrals, 10-15 AI's.
I feel that if I have enough time, I can set my defenses up to where I am almost guaranteed to win. In this set up will have you in a war in 5-10 turns against an AI that can pump out ships so you don't have that cushion.
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Default Re: Looking for GOOD AI

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Originally posted by TaeraRepublic:
Im not looking for a bloodbath, but for realistic game with smart opponents.
Guess i'll be downloading the Rage, TDM mod and the Devnulmod soon...

Thanks everyone!
(BTW, in my first message, the dreadnought with APBs and Ion Engines III was EEE's best fleet, which i took accidently with my four cruisers :-\, what made them easy prey for everyone else..poor EEE )




Note: Rage is in the TDM Modpack. Also, TDM is _NOT_ compatable w/Devnullmod, although I think Dev is working on creating Versions of the TDM races for inclusion into his mod.

And what's wrong w/the EEE? I've never met them.

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Default Re: Looking for GOOD AI

Well, bringing to top an averagely old topic..
I do not like any kind of mods (yeah, thats me) and still looking for powerful AI.

Lets see...Rage is, who else?

I myself starting to play with Medium bonus games...though i feel its unfair to give bonus to one of the players, still the AI cannot live without it.

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