Supplies - Sending an army that will not starve ?

[Yrkoon]

Hello,

is there a way to know how many supplies an army sent to a province will need ?

Imagine I have several armies in different provinces A, B, C, D ... and I send part of these armies to a province Z that I own. I can see the units I am sending by using the "y" key on province Z, but can I see how many supplies they will need ? I don't want to need more supplies that the province Z has.

[Sombre]

No, there isn't a quick and easy way to do it.

You just have to work out how much each army needs before you move 'em. Or you could build lots of supply producing items and then you'll never have to worry.

If you're playing SP, I advise putting supplies on the highest possible setting, since the AI never even attempts to avoid starving its own troops and it removes a bit of micro from your game.

[Yrkoon]

Thanks Sombre.

I was hoping there was a way to do it. But since there isn't, I think I'll take up your advice and crank up the supplies setting.

[Jazzepi]

You can figure out supply from the size of the units. I believe that a normal unit takes up 1 supply by its lonesome. Units with horses, and thus a bigger size unit, take up proportionally more supplies. The same thing is true for elephants, a size 6 unit notorious for creating supply problems.

That should help you get a good estimate of how many supplies you'll need. Note that any supply producing commanders, such as those with nature magic, will reduce the supply demand listed in a province for a given army, so it can mess up your calculations.

Jazzepi

[Agrajag]

Jazzepi said:
You can figure out supply from the size of the units. I believe that a normal unit takes up 1 supply by its lonesome. Units with horses, and thus a bigger size unit, take up proportionally more supplies. The same thing is true for elephants, a size 6 unit notorious for creating supply problems.

IIRC, Unless it produces supply, has need not eat or any other random effects, a unit eats (size-1) supplies. (size 1 units still need 1 supply) So there's no need to be vague about supply consumption.

Approximating how much supply you need is also not that complicated. You can see how much units a commander leads because it is written in the Army Setup screen, and most of the time you will only have small variation in sizes of units, so its fairly easy (though a bit annoying) to use a calculator and make a quick calculation.

[Yrkoon]

I asked the question because I am playing Caelum, and their size 3 troops eat a lot of supplies (2 each, although they are weaker than humans).
Would it be a)possible and b)thematic to make a mod that gives all caelians supply(1). So they would need as many supplies as normal humans ?
After all, ulm soldier are much tougher and eat only 1 supply.

[Revolution]

Yrkoon said:
I asked the question because I am playing Caelum, and their size 3 troops eat a lot of supplies (2 each, although they are weaker than humans).
Would it be a)possible and b)thematic to make a mod that gives all caelians supply(1). So they would need as many supplies as normal humans ?
After all, ulm soldier are much tougher and eat only 1 supply.

But can Ulm fly over those crappy non supply provinces and get straight to the meat and potatoes??!!




...I thought not.

[Endoperez]

If you wanted to do the mod, it could be done two ways:

1) changing Caelians to size 2. This would also make their formations tighter, and thus they'd be easier to kill via AoE spells. It would be out of line with similar creatures, as winged humanoids are considered one category larger than similar-sized humanoids without wings.

2) giving Caelians supplybonus 1, giving one supply for every two they eat.

[LDiCesare]

You can see how much supply you use in any province in the province description. What you can't see is how many sipplies a province you don't own has. Even with a scout, but I think spies can give you the info, and maybe your dominion or at least your dom if you're playing Arco. Not sure about scrying spells.

[Yrkoon]

Endoperez, I don't want to modify the size of the Caelians, it would change the nation to much (they wouldn't be so crap in melee anymore, so magic would be less essential and so on).

Supplybonus 1 is what I had in mind when I said supply(1). I didn't know what the syntax was. So I take it it is possible. Would it be thematic though ?