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April 25th, 2008, 09:42 AM
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Odd transformation spell...
I experimented a bit with the transformation spell after I read a comment about transforming a tree lord. I used the spell on naiads and got bears, wolfs, giant spiders, etc. I think for a Naiad that's kind of okay if I consider the size of a Naiad.
However, if I use the same spell on a tree lord I get giant ants, monkeys and also the typical animals. BUT, according to the description the caster transforms into a random monster! MONSTER!!! Not 'Cute little pet'! Could the spell get some size dependency please?! I think the forest animal is okay for human sized stuff, but for giants it's a bit underwhelming. Otherwise the spell description is irritating since the transformation turns the caster into little animals and pets but certainly not a monster.
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April 25th, 2008, 10:31 AM
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Re: Odd transformation spell...
Another question about transformation : what is the upkeep cost of the tranformed mage ?
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April 25th, 2008, 10:32 AM
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Re: Odd transformation spell...
Upkeep will be equal to 1/15 of the received creature cost. Usually it is 0 for transformation spell.
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April 25th, 2008, 11:12 AM
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General
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Re: Odd transformation spell...
I think that spell isn't really worth the gems. Maybe if it was 1N, not 8N... but even with 1N it usually isn't worth the risk. Not so high level spell so it is better to research. I made like 100 test transformations and best things I got were ice drake, wyvern, chimera, bog beast!. But you can as well die or get changed into foul spawn and feebleminded.
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April 25th, 2008, 01:09 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: Odd transformation spell...
It has sense if you want to get 0-upkeep mages from high-upkeep ones and have some healing powers.
And yes, it is expensive and not very useful as nature gems always have some better use.
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April 25th, 2008, 01:09 PM
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Re: Odd transformation spell...
What are the death chances? Feeblemind can be healed, but even a 10% chance of
death would automatically make me disregard the spell.
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April 25th, 2008, 02:17 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: Odd transformation spell...
Don't know. It just seems to me that effect depends on luck scales.
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April 25th, 2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: Odd transformation spell...
I find it is somewhat useful for EA/MA Pangea at times, especially if you are doing the turmoil/luck thing. Those Pans are horribly expensive to upkeep, and you have tons of nature gems.
Although admittedly, you would lose your menaed generators. I wouldn't do it all the time, but sometimes you just need the cash and menaeds aren't so useful.
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April 25th, 2008, 02:31 PM
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Re: Odd transformation spell...
cast twiceborn and if you have the gift of health up its pretty safe. Works for LA Pyhtium Where the mages get both nature and death. Still not a tactic for MP.
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April 25th, 2008, 02:37 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: Odd transformation spell...
The things you turn into is determined by the province you change in. I find that mountains and wastes have the best monsters. Forests always seem to give me moose or dragonflies or such crap.
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