Underground Provinces.

[Skirmisher]

First of all ,I'm no modder. But it seems like alot of you are.

I'd like to see Cave Entrances be something you could find during the course of your travels. These entrances would lead to the Subterrainian world below ground. Below the normal land provinces would exsist underground provinces. These would not be as numerous as above ground provinces.

Is this something that could be done?

[Gandalf Parker]

The subterrainian part is already in the game.
But the finding entrances isnt. Im not sure if that can be done

[Edi]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

The subterrainian part is already in the game.
But the finding entrances isnt. Im not sure if that can be done

First off, this is a question of mapmaking. Not modding. The two things are similar, but they work with some very significant differences.

Cave provinces exist in the game, but hidden entrances don't. There is no way to implement this in a map file either, since the neighbor relationships between cave provinces and any other provinces work exactly like normal neighbor relationships between e.g. plains and forest.

One of the best examples of cave province implementation in a map that I have seen can be found in Zepath's World of Warhammer map. Twan's Greyhawk map (Oeridia) also has an extensive underground section, which is implemented as a separate section on the side of the map instead of being mixed in with the other provinces (which is how World of Warhamer does things).

So those two maps will give you two examples of how to do things as much as it is possible. You can find them linked in the map list.

[Skirmisher]

Originally Posted by Edi

First off, this is a question of mapmaking. Not modding. The two things are similar, but they work with some very significant differences.

OK I understand. Right now I just use a random large map against 4 random AI opponents. I haven't seen any evidence of caves in those maps.

[Skirmisher]

Originally Posted by Edi

Cave provinces exist in the game, but hidden entrances don't. There is no way to implement this in a map file either, since the neighbor relationships between cave provinces and any other provinces work exactly like normal neighbor relationships between e.g. plains and forest.

One of the best examples of cave province implementation in a map that I have seen can be found in Zepath's World of Warhammer map. Twan's Greyhawk map (Oeridia) also has an extensive underground section, which is implemented as a separate section on the side of the map instead of being mixed in with the other provinces (which is how World of Warhamer does things).

So those two maps will give you two examples of how to do things as much as it is possible. You can find them linked in the map list.

Thanks, I'll have alook at those maps.

[HoneyBadger]

Is it possible to allow a player to see cave provinces that connect to their provinces, but hide them from other players? They wouldn't be hidden, but they'd atleast be a bit more secretive, for others?

And hidden entrances to other places (not just underground, but to all manner of places found in mythology) would be a fantastic feature, if it's ever added to the game.

[Edi]

No, it's not possible. Yes, the feature would be nice, but we have no guarantee of ever getting it.

[Herode]

Originally Posted by Skirmisher

OK I understand. Right now I just use a random large map against 4 random AI opponents. I haven't seen any evidence of caves in those maps.

I never saw any underground province in a random map. I guess the random generator ignores them.

You can also add "Caves & Corners" to your map list : 4 players and a full level of subterranean provinces.