Motorcycle/bike inf question/weirdness

[harlikwin]

It seems to me that motorcycle infantry dies much quicker compared to regular infantry when fired upon. Is that correct for the unit class or am I seeing things? Is it the same case for bicycle infantry? If so why? My understanding is they would just ditch the bikes when fired upon go prone return fire? Could it be related to movement?

Also i have had motorcycle infantry squad engaged with an ATGM (Eryx) and it kills the whole squad. Is that correct that Moto-inf are engaged with ATGMs?

[DRG]

Short answer is yes they die a bit easier. It's a game trade off for their speed otherwise all the gamey players would load up with speed 9 bike infantry

Any HEAT type weapon is capable of engaging a soft target and given the wide range of possible outcomes deliberately put into the game killing all with one shot is just as possible as not killing any although killing all would be far more rare

If anyone else has time to expand on that be my guest

Don

[Skirmisher]

[quote=DRG;679625]It's a game trade off for their speed otherwise all the gamey players would load up with speed 9 bike infantry

/QUOTE]


A gamey player is flushed as easy as moving the latrine handle.

I wonder what percentage of steel panthers players falls into the gamey catagory?

Personally I have only played 2 or 3 of these characters in my ten plus years of playing SP games.

[Imp]

Any infantry unit is easier to kill the faster it moves try moving a BTR flat out & unloading in sight it hurts. They are normally easier to hit to as size 2 like cavalrly.

[harlikwin]

So are bicycles easier to kill than motorcycles or vice versa?

Also how big is the speed effect? I'm seeing these guys get fairly well killed at low/no speeds as well. If they move ~6 shouldn't it be similar to regular infantry?

[Marcello]

Originally Posted by harlikwin

It seems to me that motorcycle infantry dies much quicker compared to regular infantry when fired upon. Is that correct for the unit class or am I seeing things? Is it the same case for bicycle infantry? If so why? My understanding is they would just ditch the bikes when fired upon go prone return fire? Could it be related to movement?

Yes, they will operate like normal infantry when fired upon, but first they have to stop, get off the motorcycle/bike and only then they can drop to the ground. This creates a longer window of vulnerability compared to leg infantry which can simply drop to the ground. This was felt to be dangerous enough in real life that IIRC swiss bike infantry trained to jump off their bikes in a way that looked like a circus trick, precisely to counter that.

[Imp]

This was felt to be dangerous enough in real life that IIRC swiss bike infantry trained to jump off their bikes in a way that looked like a circus trick, precisely to counter that

Exelent anybody got a video, also thinking about it once you hit the ground you then have to get your weapon ready & even fire sprayed in the general area the fire is coming from till you find them helps your survival.

[Marcello]

Originally Posted by Imp

Exelent anybody got a video

Not a video but a couple of pictures of the manouvre can be found here. Training for this was eventually discontinued due to excessive injury rate.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...=30601&page=44

[Imp]

Cheers Marcello I can see why

[Wdll]

I must be unlucky. The few times that I faced motorcycle units I had a serious problem getting rid of them from a distance.