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				 Quick Question: 0 Enc. SC 
 Hello folks,
 So I have the monolith armor in a game I am playing, and want to build a pimp SC with it.
 
 I also have a wish comming up. what do yous recommend as the best 0 Encumberence SC that I can wish for? Or would it be better to just get a chayot or a sereph and save the armor for when I finally get my tart demilich engine warmed up (in 5-6 turns, and no way to cure them)?
 
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				May 13th, 2011, 06:58 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Quick Question: 0 Enc. SC 
 you could just not use it? its only marginally useful even on tarts because it gives anyone who wears it like 2AP |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 13th, 2011, 09:20 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Quick Question: 0 Enc. SC 
 An Agarthan Marble Oracle would have ridiculous protection with that thing on (but miss out on the Regen). Not worth a Wish unless you're just mopping up and toying around of course.
 Mostly though I'd just flog it along with flying shoes to some random Bane Lord for marginally better thugging. Like Priesty says, it's just not very good SC gear.
 
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				May 14th, 2011, 06:36 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Quick Question: 0 Enc. SC 
 hmmm, fair play. I guess I won't plan around it and just fob it off on a tart with some flying shoes... 
It looked kind of nifty   .
 
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				May 14th, 2011, 07:21 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Quick Question: 0 Enc. SC 
 Aseftik's armor is better because it gives magic resistance.  But it's still best on something with 0 encumbrance. 
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				May 14th, 2011, 10:18 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Quick Question: 0 Enc. SC 
 note that for 0 encum SCs that can self buff, the two armor adds a huge amount of spell casting fatigue... |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 14th, 2011, 05:04 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Quick Question: 0 Enc. SC 
 Yeah, I knew about the spell casting fatigue, didn't know about the taking away AP bit.
 Guess I'll, sigh, build some proper armer then...
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				May 14th, 2011, 05:56 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Quick Question: 0 Enc. SC 
 I think boots of quickness double the AP. Dunno if it is before or after the reduction. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Quick Question: 0 Enc. SC 
 I think the elemental royalty summons have 0 encumbrance.  Monolith Armor on one of them would ignore encumbrance penalties in melee while still applying the regeneration bonus.  
 Putting it on a King of Elemental Earth would probably be the best, because they have the most hit points and can Summon Earthpower for some reinvigoration to offset any spellcasting fatigue.
 
 However, a Queen of Elemental Air would not have to worry about the AP penalty, as they have flying.
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				May 17th, 2011, 08:35 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Quick Question: 0 Enc. SC 
 Except that the Earth Kings can already self-buff protection, so they don't benefit as much from the armor. They're usually better off with something that gives special abilities, but maybe not so much protection. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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