Stealth Armour/Cloaking - possible bug

Growltigga · #1 January 9th, 2002, 12:20 PM

I have just reached the glorified heights of Armour - 4 and have developed Scattering Armour I, Emissive Armour I and Stealth Armour I.

I can see all the wonderful benefits of these bits of kit (although my testing seems to show that the Scattering/Emissive Armour doesn't really appear to work) but can someone tell me why the Stealth Armour gives you cloaking ability - given that this is a separate tech you research under physics - seems an awfully large advantage to have early on.

Is this a bug or what?

bearclaw · #2 January 9th, 2002, 12:24 PM

The stealth is only level 2. The very first tech level of any scanners renders this abilty useless. It's not a bug, although there have been discussions on it... I've found that the advantage it gives is very short lived. It doesn't take long before everyone has sensors once someone has this tech.

Gryphin · #3 January 9th, 2002, 03:53 PM

Growltigga,
The Brave man and the fool both make decisions and take chances. The fool and the brave man may end up as space dust. It is the outcome of their efforts that will determine their status.
As to the benefits of Armor, Stealth, and Sensors, I say, "Scissors, Rock, Paper"

Growltigga · #4 January 9th, 2002, 04:17 PM

I suspect you are right about the 'scissors, rock, paper' test - a lot of this game appears to follow that concept

the same also applies to a lot of boardgames - once you had the hang of what was the rock/scissor/paper etc, you had pretty much exhausted everything - I always used to rely on the 'Godzilla effect' ie putting my foot throught the gaming board when frustrated

Gryphin · #5 January 9th, 2002, 04:59 PM

Growltigga,
Re: 'scissors, rock, paper'. That is the pleasure in playing against "Humans". You never know what 'scissors, rock, or paper' they will use. The AI, (algorithm intellect), is fairly predictable after a while.

Growltigga · #6 January 9th, 2002, 05:37 PM

Gryphin
Too right - but sometimes the AI can catch you out by doing something so ridiculous it either (a) wrong foots you completely or (b) belongs on the Muppet Show

Have you tried playing SEIV against 'human' (giving the term its widest possible definition) as of yet? I can see how it could be absolutely fantastic

Growltigga · #7 January 10th, 2002, 02:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by bearclaw:
The stealth is only level 2.

[RU sure about this? - I have double checked and Armour - 2 only gives you Armour II - you only get Stealth armour at level 4.]

The very first tech level of any scanners renders this abilty useless. It's not a bug, although there have been discussions on it...

[Noted - I have only played against the AI so have (a) not seen any AI races using it and (b) if I have, I have not been aware of it - by first tech level of scanners, do you mean Long Range Scanners I that you get with researching Physics 2?]

[My query however is that as soon as you instal Stealth Armour I on any ship, you get a new icon which allows you to 'cloak' - I would have thought that researching cloaking technology (physics 3) shuld give you this ability as when I activate the stealth armour I 'cloak' - nothing sees me at all]

I've found that the advantage it gives is very short lived. It doesn't take long before everyone has sensors once someone has this tech.

[I suspect you are right - I am sure Gryphin will get this when I play him at PBEM/PBW later on]

Gryphin · #8 January 10th, 2002, 02:15 AM

Growltigga,
I don't need to hide behind little sissy skirts of stealth,

Growltigga · #9 January 10th, 2002, 02:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Gryphin:
Growltigga,
I don't need to hide behind little sissy skirts of stealth,

More fool you then!!

Gryphin · #10 January 10th, 2002, 02:38 AM

The difference between a brave man and a foolish one is written in the history book.