.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > The Camo Workshop > WinSPWW2 > TO&Es
Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old January 22nd, 2024, 03:24 AM
TDR's Avatar

TDR TDR is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 134
Thanks: 1
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
TDR is on a distinguished road
Default OOB 35 Finland – some weapon confusion

I was having a quick look at the Finnish OOB before looking at making a scenario.
I noted 2 oddities that tend to be somewhat confusing:

In the Units table there is the following:
Unit no: #44
Name: 75mm M40 AT-Gun
Dates: 6/43 – 12/43

If this is the Finnish purchased German 7.5 cm Pak 40, should not the dates be 6/43 – 12/46.
Or have I mixed this with some other AT gun?

In the Weapons table and with various units there is this:
Weapon no: #93
Weapons name: M30 Rifle Gren
Looking at the various units with this weapon it has a date range of 1/37 – 12/46.

I am unsure what this rifle grenade is.
Is it the Dyakonov's grenade launcher that entered service with the Soviet Army about 1920 – 1930, or something else?

I can not find anything on the M30 Rifle Grenade to clarify what it is exactly.
Simply what is it?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old January 22nd, 2024, 02:15 PM
DRG's Avatar

DRG DRG is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: GWN
Posts: 12,487
Thanks: 3,956
Thanked 5,688 Times in 2,810 Posts
DRG will become famous soon enough
Default Re: OOB 35 Finland – some weapon confusion

Quote:
Originally Posted by TDR View Post
I was having a quick look at the Finnish OOB before looking at making a scenario.
I noted 2 oddities that tend to be somewhat confusing:

In the Units table there is the following:
Unit no: #44
Name: 75mm M40 AT-Gun
Dates: 6/43 – 12/43

If this is the Finnish purchased German 7.5 cm Pak 40, should not the dates be 6/43 – 12/46.
Or have I mixed this with some other AT gun?

In the Weapons table and with various units there is this:
Weapon no: #93
Weapons name: M30 Rifle Gren
Looking at the various units with this weapon it has a date range of 1/37 – 12/46.

I am unsure what this rifle grenade is.
Is it the Dyakonov's grenade launcher that entered service with the Soviet Army about 1920 – 1930, or something else?

I can not find anything on the M30 Rifle Grenade to clarify what it is exactly.
Simply what is it?

re 75mm M40 AT-Gun.....SEE POST #4

As for the M30 Rifle Grenade. It will be the Dyakonov

You say
Quote:
Looking at the various units with this weapon it has a date range of 1/37 – 12/46.
I say you are incorrect. It is available to the Finns from 1930


users of weapon ID 93 M30 Rifle Gren:
166 - Ski Pioneers - uClass 166 : slot 3 - Available 01/030 to 12/041
170 - Engineer Squad - uClass 020 : slot 3 - Available 01/030 to 12/041
181 - Rifle Squad - uClass 001 : slot 4 - Available 01/037 to 12/040
183 - Rifle Squad - uClass 001 : slot 4 - Available 01/041 to 12/044
187 - Rifle Squad - uClass 001 : slot 4 - Available 01/045 to 12/049
190 - Jaeger Squad - uClass 162 : slot 4 - Available 01/037 to 12/040
192 - Jaeger Squad - uClass 162 : slot 4 - Available 01/041 to 12/044
196 - Jaeger Squad - uClass 162 : slot 4 - Available 01/045 to 12/049
204 - Rifle Squad - uClass 040 : slot 4 - Available 01/041 to 12/044
206 - Rifle Squad - uClass 040 : slot 4 - Available 01/045 to 12/049
214 - Jaeger Squad - uClass 163 : slot 4 - Available 01/041 to 12/044
216 - Jaeger Squad - uClass 163 : slot 4 - Available 01/045 to 12/049
265 - Bicycle Squad - uClass 172 : slot 4 - Available 01/037 to 12/040
267 - Bicycle Squad - uClass 172 : slot 4 - Available 01/041 to 12/044
271 - Bicycle Squad - uClass 172 : slot 4 - Available 01/045 to 12/049
279 - Bicycle Squad - uClass 179 : slot 4 - Available 01/041 to 12/044
281 - Bicycle Squad - uClass 179 : slot 4 - Available 01/045 to 12/049
321 - Bunker - uClass 000 : slot 4 - Available 01/040 to 12/044
__________________


"You are never to old to rock and roll if you are too young to die".--- What do you expect to be doing when you are 80?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kWt8ELuDOc

Last edited by DRG; January 23rd, 2024 at 07:03 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old January 23rd, 2024, 03:31 AM
TDR's Avatar

TDR TDR is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 134
Thanks: 1
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
TDR is on a distinguished road
Default Re: OOB 35 Finland – some weapon confusion

Thank you for your clarification re the M30 Rifle Grenade.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old January 23rd, 2024, 06:56 AM
DRG's Avatar

DRG DRG is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: GWN
Posts: 12,487
Thanks: 3,956
Thanked 5,688 Times in 2,810 Posts
DRG will become famous soon enough
Exclamation Re: OOB 35 Finland – some weapon confusion

CORRECTION

Quote:
in the units table there is the following:
Unit no: #44
name: 75mm m40 at-gun
dates: 6/43 – 12/43

if this is the finnish purchased german 7.5 cm pak 40, should not the dates be 6/43 – 12/46.
Or have i mixed this with some other at gun?
My response that you had found and old "error" was premature and it occured to me later why

There are TWO Finn 75mm M40 AT-Guns

You found the first one ( unit 44 ) with the lower Sabot and HEAT round count that ends 12/43 but then Unit 136 with a higher Sabot and HEAT round count takes over and runs 1/44-12/46

No correction to 44 will be made
__________________


"You are never to old to rock and roll if you are too young to die".--- What do you expect to be doing when you are 80?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kWt8ELuDOc

Last edited by DRG; January 23rd, 2024 at 07:04 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old January 24th, 2024, 04:47 AM
TDR's Avatar

TDR TDR is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 134
Thanks: 1
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
TDR is on a distinguished road
Default Re: OOB 35 Finland – some weapon confusion

Fine.
Solves the problem..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.