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Bring the battleships back? AGAIN!
No.
BUT!
Some good info here on the US vs the PRC.
And what MAY happen.
(( Forgive the built-in commercials, nothing I can do about them. ))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6GKTLUswIQ
Fortunately in WinSPMBT you can use off-map artillery/rockets to simulate most any type of naval fire support.
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February 1st, 2024, 06:44 PM
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Re: Bring the battleships back? AGAIN!
Battleships are cool, because they have the biggest guns of all the warships, and when they fire a broadside it's one hell of a sight to see, one you won't ever forget. Their also cool when they sail in column formation, a long line of them just coming to kick your as*. Very fomnible to see, more formidable than the aircraft carrier. Of course in reality they don't have more firepower than an aircraft carrier, but they carry huge, extra thick armor. They probably have great endurance, though the missle seems to have made them obsolete.
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February 1st, 2024, 08:11 PM
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Re: Bring the battleships back? AGAIN!
I was told (i.e. may well be a Sea Story [i.e. total B.S.]) that during Desert Storm an Iraqi Corps HQ was located in a school complex in Kuwait City. They didn't want to use bombs because of the risk of hitting nearby friendly civilian structures. So the USS Missouri took it's time aiming and waiting for just the right sea conditions then dropped one 16in shell on the complex.
End of Iraqi Corps HQ.
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February 1st, 2024, 10:13 PM
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Re: Bring the battleships back? AGAIN!
lol
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February 1st, 2024, 10:15 PM
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Re: Bring the battleships back? AGAIN!
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/02...8009219349353/
https://ussmissouri.org/learn-the-hi...n-desert-storm
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On 3 February, the battleship fired her main battery in anger for the first time since the Korean War. She targeted concrete command-and-control bunkers as well as Iraqi artillery positions, firing 112 16” rounds between 5 to 7 February. The next week, Missouri fired 69 16-inch rounds during fire-support missions. This time, her targets were infantry battalions, a mechanized unit, an artillery battery, and a command bunker.
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February 1st, 2024, 10:35 PM
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Re: Bring the battleships back? AGAIN!
When Ronald Reagan was president, there was a terrorist action in lebanon, what's new right? Anyway, he ordered a battleship to fire one shell every hour at them in retaliation. It had an extra effect because the shell had the weight of a small car, hence it roared as it flew through the sky. Really got on your nerves if you were on the receiving end I bet. It really didn't have much effect in deverting terrorist ambitions, but it looked real cool on the news.
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February 2nd, 2024, 04:49 PM
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Re: Bring the battleships back? AGAIN!
Another nice thing about large caliber naval guns.
You can intercept missiles/aircraft/helos with other missiles, sometimes disrupt them with EW, and there's always AA/Phalanx type systems. Would any of these have the slightest effect on a 16in naval shell? AND they pack more punch then 90% of missiles!
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Re: Bring the battleships back? AGAIN!
I might trust the Iowa class weapons to be fired again. As for the USS Texas.....having visited that lovely girl, I'd not want to be anywhere near the turret that tries to fire a round from those old 14inch specials.
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February 10th, 2024, 08:58 PM
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Re: Bring the battleships back? AGAIN!
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I might trust the Iowa class weapons to be fired again. As for the USS Texas.....having visited that lovely girl, I'd not want to be anywhere near the turret that tries to fire a round from those old 14inch specials.
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Yeah, PRE WW1 Era battleships are getting a bit too old to be getting frisky with their big guns.
She is a sweety though
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February 10th, 2024, 10:01 PM
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Re: Bring the battleships back? AGAIN!
That's the USS Texas? Those tugboats are almost as big as the ship. It looks like one tough ship though. If it's pre-WWI it must be over 100 years old! I guess it found a way to survive after all these years, after two world wars and all. Must have outstanding karma!
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