Magic Items under CBM

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It's not that the pillage bonus on the Axe is weak, so much as pillaging itself is just pretty much a waste of time.

The RNG does like handing out Implementor Axes; at least I've frequently gotten a few. Or maybe I just notice them because they mostly sit around in my lab.

[Squirrelloid]

Originally Posted by Amorphous

My thinking was more in the line of effectively removing the axe and creating a new weapon with fear and the same look, but no pillage bonus.

Is that not possible?

Why not just increase the damage and stats on the axe so someone might think about actually making/using one? I mean, so it has a pillaging bonus... whatever. That's not worth anything, so it shouldn't effect our valuation of what it does and what it should do.

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by Amorphous

My thinking was more in the line of effectively removing the axe and creating a new weapon with fear and the same look, but no pillage bonus.

Is that not possible?

No. It's also pointless, since you can just boost the imp axe and ignore the pillage bonus no-one cares about.

If you want to know what's actually possible rather than having to ask me or assume anything, I suggest looking in the mod manual. In fact no-one should be allowed to post in this thread unless they actually understand what can be done to weapons/items via mod commands.

[Valerius]

Originally Posted by Sombre

In fact no-one should be allowed to post in this thread unless they actually understand what can be done to weapons/items via mod commands.

Well, I'm glad it's been clarified who is allowed to post in this thread.

[Tollund]

He's got a point. There are plenty of people suggesting things that can't be done by modding. They are even suggesting that these things be done after posts which explicitly state that those things can't be done. I think it's been mentioned twice now that the pillage bonus on the implementor axe can't be modded out.

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by Valerius

Well, I'm glad it's been clarified who is allowed to post in this thread.

Your sarcasm has made me see the light. Let's all suggest things that can't be done and argue with each other about them at great length rather than spend the five minutes or so required to understand the limits of weapon and item modding. You know, by reading the doc readily available to every single person who has patched their game up to date. Expecting people to have done this before weighing in is nearly as unreasonable as expecting people to have used CBM or actually played dominions before posting here.

[Valerius]

Originally Posted by Sombre

Your sarcasm has made me see the light.

A sarcastic response to sarcasm. How novel.

Originally Posted by Sombre

Let's all suggest things that can't be done blah, blah, blah.

I could spend time arguing this but it's pointless. It's really very simple. You are not one to let an opportunity for snideness or obnoxiousness pass. It's what you do.

[Sombre]

Wow you sure piled the irony on in that one. Let's get back to the thread though shall we?

What about underused magical spears having the #charge tag? This has already been modded in before and allows for some nice tricks with high AP thugs. Consider the spear of sharpness - currently never built over the sword of sharpness. But if it had charge,..?

[Sir_Dr_D]

Sombre. I just finished browsing the modding manual. I was just about to suggest the same thing you did. All spears should have the charge effect. I don't think it will make the items that more usefull, but at least they would be more interesting. [Edit - by spear of sharpness you probably mean stinger. And the answer is yes, if the spear had the charge ability I would consider taking it as a replacement for the single handed sword of sharpness on occasion.]

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I have a question about what #type and #weapon, or #armor do for magic items. Would it allow us to say the bloodstone is a weapon or armor, and in addition to what it normally does, also have the ability of the armor/weapon?

[Sir_Dr_D]

Lets do a general comparison between 2-handed weapons and one handed weapons.

Single Handed Sword of Sharpness:
Damage - 8
Attack - 1
Defense - 2
Length - 2

Two handed sword of sharpness:
Damage - 12
Attack - 2
Defense - 3
Length - 3


[ EDIT - I am showing a couple other items for comparison ]
1 handed bane blade:
Damage - 6
Attack - 1
Defense - 2
Length - 2

2 handed bane blade:
Damage - 9
Attack - 2
Defense - 3
Length - 3
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Enchanted spear:
Damage - 7
Attack - 3
Defense - 2
Length - 4

Enchanted pike:
Damage - 9
Attack - 3
Defense - 1
Length - 6
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Most of these diferences are not nearly enough.





Is the difference between these enough to ever warrent getting the two handed version of the single handed version and a shield? I would always get the single handed version. If the two handed is not powerfull enough, how much should it be raised by? This difference could be a guide for all two handed weapons. The two versions of the bane blade could also be compared.