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Old January 31st, 2025, 07:53 PM

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Slovakia

I've found a Polish 2024 article on Slovak BMPs. In Slovakia they are designated BVP-1/2 (units 22, 23) (as in Czechoslovak oob)

022 BMP-1 - BVP-1 were used at least until 2022, when they gave it to Ukraine (however it is not clear, if their last BMP-1 were given, or rather last ones from a batch of 30 vehicles...)
https://defence-blog.com/slovakia-co...ry-to-ukraine/
https://en.defence-ua.com/industries...aine-4991.html

025 BMP-1D Cobra - Cobra turret didn't enter production eventually (https://armoredwarfare.com/en/news/g...nt-ot-64-cobra )
However, since 2018 there were delivered different modernized BVP-M https://kotadef.sk/projekty/bvp-m/?lang=en
It has the same 30 mm cannon and PKT CMG and Konkurs missiles, but only 2.
Crew is 3+7 - however I don't know, if the commander of the vehicle stays with it or disembarks as the 8th soldier - it might be 2+8 to fit a section.
There is a modern FC system with laser RF, and the commander has a thermal observation sight. It has a laser detection system and SD.

015 BRM-1 - there is no information if Soviet BRM-1, bought in a small number by Czechoslovakia, were ever used in Slovakia - however, 58 of Czechoslovak equivalent BPzV Svatava were used (unit 404 in Czechoslovak oob).
Should be modified accordingly (lbm 8017, more ammo: 38/38, added #145 Malutka launcher with 7 missiles, 3 SD). Speed should be 22.
Crew should be 3+3 (fits 3-men Scout section in Slovak OOB)

Both this and Czechoslovak 404 BPzV should however have 1700 icon, since it had original 1-man BMP-1 turret.

Along with BVP-M there were modernized recce vehicles introduced by 2017: BPsV-I. It has the same specifications and armament as BVP-M, but the crew is 3+1 (with an option of fitting additional two seats, so it can take 3-men scout section)

BMP-1/2

BTW: I've noticed, that BMP-1/2 and BRM-1 in Soviet OOBs are size 3, while most in other OOBs are size 4. I guess all should be 3 for a cosistency (and they were quite low, especially comparing to Bradley).
Also, some BMP-2s have speed 24, while it should be 22 like BMP-1 (and like in Soviet OOB)

Units with incorrect size 4 (and/or speed 24)

Slovak OOB:
015 - BRM-1 (to be replaced by BPzV)
022 - BMP-1
023 - BMP-2
024 - OT-90
025 - BMP-1D Cobra (to be replaced by BVP-1)

Czechoslovak OOB:
064 - BVP-1
065 - BVP-2
066 - OT-90
079 - OT-90M2

Poland:
063 - BWP-1m
064 - BWP-1
065 - BWP-1
404 - BWR-1D
676 - BWP-2 (speed only, size is 3)

East Germany
063 - SPZ BMP-1
064 - SPZ BMP-1
065 - SPZ BMP-1P
066 - SPZ BMP-1P
129 - SPZ BMP-2
574, 575 - BRM-1 (these two too fast only... BTW , I can't see a practical difference between them. However, being Soviet BRM-1, they should have BMP-2 icon with a bigger turret)

Ukraine
329 BWP-1 - Polish-delivered, should be in a camouflage 3474. It may be assumed, that vehicles with modern radios 90 and vision 30 were given. Or at least they should be.

Bulgaria
063,064,065 - BMP-1
BMP-23 is a different and bigger domestic machine

Romania
uses only own BMP clones MLI-84, size 3 is correct and speed 24 more or less so (reportedly they drive 70 km/h, although 23 might be more appropriate)

China
056 - Type 86 IFV (Chinese clone)
063 - Type 86-I IFV (size 4 is justified by a high turret in this case?)
727 - Type 86G IFV

Sweden
056 Pbv 501

I didn't check other nations using BMP-1/2 under original names.

Last edited by Pibwl; February 1st, 2025 at 08:17 AM..
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