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Geo, do you think you could get some form of this list once it is completed in the default game description when creating a new game on PBW? Or if you do not want it there, at least in a very noticeable place in the game creation page, such as a link towards the top of it.
			
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 I don't know if the whole list is necceasary, but we could revise what is currently there and put some sort of reminder to the game owners to consider these kinds of things when setting up the game. 
 
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		Hence, "some form of the list".      Thanks!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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Geo, do you think you could get some form of this list once it is completed in the default game description when creating a new game on PBW? Or if you do not want it there, at least in a very noticeable place in the game creation page, such as a link towards the top of it.
			
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 A really good topic Fyron!! Thanks! 
Oh, by the way, why exchange population would be gamey??? 
 
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		Maybe a link to some place you can keep the list updated. As new bug exploits are discovered and if and when any patches coem out the list will likely change. 
 
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		So about the bug exploits half... what are all the bugs that can be exploited in 1.84? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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Maybe a link to some place you can keep the list updated. As new bug exploits are discovered and if and when any patches coem out the list will likely change. 
 
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 Ohh.. now see I did point to the Encyclopedia Malfadoria entry way back when.  Click this link: Now there was some disagreement back then on the content, but since anyone can edit, isn't it the ideal place for such a list? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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Maybe a link to some place you can keep the list updated. As new bug exploits are discovered and if and when any patches coem out the list will likely change. 
 
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 Ohh.. now see I did point to the Encyclopedia Malfadoria entry way back when.  Click this link: Now there was some disagreement back then on the content, but since anyone can edit, isn't it the ideal place for such a list? Actually that might be the best place for it. 
 
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		Oh hey Fyron, not sure how we missed this one.... 
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		Not sure "Intelligence Projects" should be listed.  First of all, it's most assuredly not in the realm of gamey.  Secondly, it's really just one item of a list of items any person creating a game might want to disallow.  For instance, a person could create a game that didn't use missiles or mines or stellar manip.  Not because they are gamey...just to create a game without that particular component.  To me, intel is just another feature/item (or whatever) that a person might not want in their game.  So, I'd suggest removing it and adding a item called (something like) "Areas not allowed as specified at game setup (e.g., intel, ruins, mines, etc.)" 
 
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		Again, this is not a discussion thread. All I will say is that the entire Intelligence system of SE4 is completely screwey, and using it is very, very gamey. It stays on the list.       And either way, it is something that every game host needs to sit down and think about wether allowing it or not in the game. It is just such a horrible system that it generally has the effect of ruining games instead of making them more fun.
 
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