OT POLL: Do Nice Guys Finish Last??

[General Woundwort]

Interesting that the level of cynicism is (so far, with 9 votes) much deeper re: the opposite sex, than for work and life in general. I shall have to run these results by some trusted sources in the "enemy" camp and see what they think...

[ July 12, 2004, 12:39: Message edited by: General Woundwort ]

[Gryphin]

Originally posted by General Woundwort:
Interesting that the level of cynicism is (so far, with 9 votes) much deeper re: the opposite sex, than for work and life in general. I shall have to run these results by some trusted sources in the "enemy" camp and see what they think...

I personly feel women are excited by "bad boys", but truly want "good boys" for a long term relationship. You might see younger women go for the exciting types but most of them have a realist expectations and no intention of statying with them.

If you watch "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Spike turns her on big time but she loves Angel. Yes this is a TV example but I have seen it in real life. Women "talk" about the bad boys like they wish they could "have" them but when pushed they admit they want a "nice guy" they can trust.

[Slynky]

I'm with Gryphin on this one.

When I was growing up, I saw lots of girls I found attractive and interesting who seemed only to have eyes for guys that treated them like dirt (or substitute another 4-letter word). I never understood it especially when they could have been with ME .

My wife was married 3 times before me. Two were "bad boys" and the 3rd a bible-thumper (she just knew someone she met at church would be the right guy ). No marriage Lasted more than 4 years and, averaging, they Lasted about 2 and a half. We've been together for 8 years. Though 15 years younger, she is now mature enough to realize being treated nicely leads to much more happiness than what she settled for in the past. Oh, don't get me wrong, we still dabble in some "bad" excitement but I don't treat her like dirt.

[Slynky]

Another comment:

I'm not rich (though, I suspect, some people struggling to make a living might disagree after seeing our house and lifestyle). I'd say I'm well off. So, as to the question about nice guys finishing Last in the workplace (where the money is made), I'll say there are those who are much more ambitious than I am and who are willing to step on people to climb that "ladder". But I like to sleep well at night. And more money in exchange for that sleep just isn't worth it to me.

[AMF]

Well, I think it is safe to say that nice guys generally finish Last in SEIV and politics in general. I am almost exclusively a cooperative/non-zero-sum type of player, building alliances, gifting tech freely, helping others out in SEIV...and I don't think I've won a PBW game yet...my fault, of course. I also suck at ship design and micro-managing, which doesn't help.

[Traskelion]

In response to David E. Gervais's comment:
I'd like to say that I DO leave my cars unlocked, and no one takes them, so HAH to you! Then again, most of them don't work anyway, but the big reason is I live in a little town where no one locks anything (except school lockers).

Anyway, to the point. As a "nice guy" I can safely say that in SEIV, it will get you beaten around pretty badly by someone more cruel

[Slynky]

Originally posted by alarikf:
Well, I think it is safe to say that nice guys generally finish Last in SEIV and politics in general. I am almost exclusively a cooperative/non-zero-sum type of player, building alliances, gifting tech freely, helping others out in SEIV...and I don't think I've won a PBW game yet...my fault, of course. I also suck at ship design and micro-managing, which doesn't help.

I hear ya, "Deccan" (smile). 1 x 1 games are OK because everyone (both people) have agreed at the beginning to be enemies. But in a multi-game, I find it hard to choose an enemy when it needs to be done for expansion's sake. I usually look to who has treated me the worst. In your case, as you know, we settled out pretty well. So, I think we are similar in this regard .