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Old October 3rd, 2003, 02:51 PM

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One idea might be to add a Remove Curse spell, but make it so expensive that it's only really desirable for roleplayers and pretenders
This is the best suggestion so far!
but Pretenders, combat ones at least, are the first Deux ex Machina you will find against you, and as early as turn 15 or so. Often you will be able to bring them down only by piling on them afflictions. If they are cursed, it is doable. If they have their curse removed, then it will be far more difficult.
Before asking for a remove curse, be sure to confront a Nataraja or an Ice Devil on rampage. When he will have harvested 500 kills (your units!) you will perhaps be happy to have curse and afflictions slowing him down.
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Old October 3rd, 2003, 02:58 PM

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Curse is the great equalizer, the spy that kills the mariscal (sp?) in Stratego, Superman's kryptonita. Gotta love it.
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Old October 3rd, 2003, 03:04 PM

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One idea might be to add a Remove Curse spell, but make it so expensive that it's only really desirable for roleplayers and pretenders
This is the best suggestion so far!
I agree, we need a counterspell against curse. Either protection against curse or remove curse. IMHO a remove curse spell would be the best.
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Old October 3rd, 2003, 03:27 PM

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>Curse is the great equalizer

Agreed. I can live without "remove curse" (a wish seems logical however, and probably easy to do with a patch). I must admit that Curse is very special : it never misses, it always targets the biggest unit (more hp) and MR offers no protection. I see no other spells like that.
Only solution I've found is to give *bigger* units to your pretender. In my first game I was able to completely avoid curse on my 20hp Medusa because she had vine ogres (43 hp) around her. If you have a 125hp dragon, try Blood Vines, Abominations or Iron dragons (nothing can save a 500hp Sphinx, I'm afraid).

But, well, that's an equalizer. Without Curse (or even if MR negates) it'll be _much_ harder to kill the biggest creatures IMHO, like Sphinx, Great Mother, FI etc.

And think positive : Curse only gives more afflictions and afflictions can be removed (hard to do but far from impossible).

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Old October 3rd, 2003, 04:10 PM
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>Curse is the great equalizer

Agreed. I can live without "remove curse" (a wish seems logical however, and probably easy to do with a patch). I must admit that Curse is very special : it never misses, it always targets the biggest unit (more hp) and MR offers no protection. I see no other spells like that.
Only solution I've found is to give *bigger* units to your pretender. In my first game I was able to completely avoid curse on my 20hp Medusa because she had vine ogres (43 hp) around her. If you have a 125hp dragon, try Blood Vines, Abominations or Iron dragons (nothing can save a 500hp Sphinx, I'm afraid).

But, well, that's an equalizer. Without Curse (or even if MR negates) it'll be _much_ harder to kill the biggest creatures IMHO, like Sphinx, Great Mother, FI etc.

And think positive : Curse only gives more afflictions and afflictions can be removed (hard to do but far from impossible).

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I agree on this 100%.
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Old October 3rd, 2003, 04:17 PM

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If there won't be a spell like remove curse, there must be a wish to remove it.
It is too easy to curse units, I think it would be good to have a remove curse spell still, or cursing should be very rare.
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True. Still, even with an expensive Remove Curse, a rampaging pretender can still be successfully attacked and afflicted with curse, since it is easy to curse, and Remove Curse wouldn't heal afflictions, and would require retreating the pretender to a lab, and then spending large amounts of gems to undo something that can pretty easily be re-done. The strategy of repeatedly removing curses from one's pretender would actually be more damaging to an empire than just living with curses.

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