Poll #2. [Try out the demo, and vote after that!]

MStavros · #1 October 28th, 2003, 03:02 PM

IW has already lost a customer. Me. I am playing mostly SP in all games. Psitticine posted something in the past, that the Doms II. AI will be lot better than the Doms I. AI.

I have no idea, that why did he posted that, but he lied I guess?? I am not sure, but I am sure in one thing.

The Dominions 2. AI SUCKS with big letters. It is one of the worst AIs, what I ever seen in any strategy games.
I won't order this game, until some major AI tweaks will be done. I can live without Dominions II. so no hard feelings.

A little addition for this singleplayer - multiplayer "war": cpbeller you should know, that a forum is a good mirror of a gaming community.
Example: If 3000-4000 Users are posting on a board, that means that the game sold a few hundred thousand copies. If 30-40 people are posting, that means that the community is very small, propably a few thousand people are playing with that game. This is true about the SP,MP part as well. If the majority here are SPers, more than likely the whole community prefers the SP.
This is working like this, in any games.
Just becase some finnish fans made an IRC channel for MP games...that means nothing.
Your post is full with ignorant content, cpbeller. No offense.
I know lot more about these things, trust me.

I think the SP fans are annoyed, because the AI sucks. If the devs wanted to sell a SP,MP game. they should make a decent AI.
As someone said, the best would be to forget about the SP part, and make an MP game only, if they can't code AIs.
Right now we have a game with decent MP, and crap SP. No wonder that lot of fans are pissed, including me.
Think about this, before you will start flaming 'that this supposed to be a MP game'.
If this supposed to be a MP game, than why the hell is there an SP part at all? I must admit that the SP sucks right now, because of this dumb AI.

Hopefully these Posts won't scare away the SP fans from ordering the game, but this is the sad truth.

[ October 28, 2003, 13:06: Message edited by: MStavros ]

MythicalMino · #2 October 28th, 2003, 03:09 PM

you are wrong...but...ok....since you are leaving....bye

Shir Khan · #3 October 28th, 2003, 03:19 PM

Hi, I just tried out this demo. This is a weird game, but I beat the AI on the hardest level in my second game.
I think this is not normal. In any other games, it is impossible to beat an AI so easily. I guess the AI must be very weak.

MStavros · #4 October 28th, 2003, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cpbeller:
you are wrong...but...ok....since you are leaving....bye

LMAO, Illwinter must hire Mr. Cpbeller...with his help they can sell lot more copies, I am sure.

[Feel the sarcasm?]

Anyways I won't argue with you man, you are very wrong in lot of things.
I advice, take a look at the poll, just in case.

Gandalf Parker · #5 October 28th, 2003, 03:39 PM

As a "mostly solo player" I am hoping for a decent AI. Well actually, a decent AI spread. Easy should be easy but hard should be hard.

But I wouldnt say its the worst. There are alot of games where the AI was little more than a way to get thru a tutorial period. Particualrly where the programming concentrated on MP play. It wasnt meant as a real opponent. I get the impression that the AI in Dom2 is meant as an opponent though.

Im still testing things so Im not saying alot about what I like and dont like about Dom2. But as far as the AI thing goes Im just wondering how people tested it. I found in Dom 1 that the AI was extremely fair about how it treated AI/Human players. Pros and Cons. Thats something we all complained about in other games when human players were picked on by AI or when AI cheated.

Anyway, I found in the past that if you played with all the races turned on then a player could easily use the AI vs AI combats to his advantage. Especially on small maps. The AI in Dom2 MIGHT (I havent tested this) might put on a better show if there are fewer races or if someone would make a larger playing map.

[ October 28, 2003, 13:44: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

-Storm- · #6 October 28th, 2003, 03:45 PM

Do you play single or multi?
I only play SP 61% (20)
I prefer SP, but rarely I play MP 15% (5)

What do you think about the Dominions II. AI?
Average 27% (9)
Below average 27% (9)
Poor 18% (6)

What are we talkin' about? cpbeller is browsing another message board? Huh?

Gandalf Parker · #7 October 28th, 2003, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -Storm-:
Do you play single or multi?
I only play SP 61% (20)
I prefer SP, but rarely I play MP 15% (5)
What do you think about the Dominions II. AI?
Average 27% (9)
Below average 27% (9)
Poor 18% (6)

I think someone pointed out already the fact that there is always a wide difference in the people using web forums over other discussion areas. Webbies tend to be soloists. People more into social interaction tend to painfully find their way into forums such as newsGroups and IRC chats. Ive worked for ISPs since they were invented and Ive seen this difference.