gold output

[apoger]

I did some testing.
Looks like IW cut the gold producing value of administration to 50% of the admin value.

I.E.
Watch Tower [admin 10] gets you 5% extra gold
Wizards Tower [admin 30] gets you 15% extra gold
Fortified City [admin 50] gets you 25% extra gold


Frankly with the weaker economy it was already hard to afford extra forts. Now that it takes forever to pay them off... they are even less usefull. I am very unhappy with the economics of Dom II.

Time for a fort to pay for itself using even scales when placed on a 20K population province:

Watch Tower = 60 turns
Dark Citadel = 60 turns
Wizards Tower = 20 turns
Citadel = 30 Turns
Fortified City = 30 turns

[ November 01, 2003, 22:03: Message edited by: apoger ]

[PvK]

I know some people don't care about realism, but just incidentally, real-world castles often took generations to build.

PvK

[Saber Cherry]

But a wizard tower never pays for itself under the new system, as the points you put into it could go to Order. Ignoring resources and national units, of course=)

Yeah. I don't like the new economics. It makes the game even more dreary and depressing than before... truly apocalyptic now=) I think I'll stop taking the fortified city, with this new revelation.

Alternately, since admin is so much weaker, perhaps its weight in the castle's gold cost and nation points cost could be reduced.

[Zerger]

Originally posted by apoger:
I am very unhappy with the economics of Dom II.

Hehehe. Just wait until you will meet with Ermor. your economy will be non existent very fast.

[Saber Cherry]

Originally posted by PvK:
I know some people don't care about realism, but just incidentally, real-world castles often took generations to build.

PvK

So what are you suggesting? That to build a castle in three turns, you should have to put more than just one commander to work?

[ November 01, 2003, 22:19: Message edited by: Saber Cherry ]

[apoger]

>I know some people don't care about realism, but just incidentally, real-world castles often took generations to build.

Roman armies put up rather impressive fortifictations *every night* while the army was in the field.

Dominions is a limited game in a world of high fantasy. You can't expect "realism". However we can try for FUN.

[apoger]

> Hehehe. Just wait until you will meet with Ermor. your economy will be non existent very fast.

Insult to injury.
I am aware of this and it's part of what I don't like about the new system.