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March 31st, 2004, 07:28 PM
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Re: does anyone else think province defense can be levied to quickly?
Sounds like somebody needs to experience the utter joy of watching multiple Imprint Souls, Ghost Riders and Army of the Dead attacks per turn. Astral and death magic in particular make choke points far less of an issue, as do flying/'port-capable SCs.
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March 31st, 2004, 08:11 PM
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Re: does anyone else think province defense can be levied to quickly?
Um, MICTLAN PD?
*lol*
Okkaay...
I may be new to this game, but I can handle 50+ Mictlan PD without a sweat. Geez, 10 HC or 30 HI will walk over that...
I think someone has an overinflated sense of their capability. I know how to use chokepoints, trust me. My point is that you can't sacrifice everything in a strategy (particularly in a game like this) just to occupt certain pieces of ground.
That's sheer idiocy. That allow the _map_ to control where, when, and how the battles take place.
My point was to use the opponent's idiotic focus on a particular province against him. Sure, he has a chokepoint. So what? Take every province around him. He can't do that everywhere. Hell, for the cost of the Last 10 points of PD, he could have put 10 PD in 7 different provs (I think... didn't do the math explicitly).
I think, with all respect, that you should try playing the game against a larger crowd. That will probably teach you much more than you are learning currently.
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April 1st, 2004, 02:21 AM
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Re: does anyone else think province defense can be levied to quickly?
Wow, Mictlan PD? I think I only ever spend like 5 points for mictlan PD, and that just for some fodder to lose to Call of the Winds so that real troops don't have to die. Mictlan is at the very bottom couple of rungs of the PD ladder, right down there with C'tis and Machaka.
You could rout 50 Mictlan PD with a couple death mages casting Terror in like 3 rounds, if that. You don't even need more than a handful of bodyguards.
Or you could recruit 20 longbowmen. None of Mictlan's PD have any defense at all against arrows.
Or you could summon a few vine ogres. Mictlan PD would have a hell of a time killing 10 vine ogres.
Or......
There's about a million ways of dealing with PD as crappy as Mictlan's. Now, if you were talking about *Jotunheim* or *Ulm* PD, you might have a leg to stand on (though both do have their weaknesses - Jotun PD is succeptable to being swarmed by high defense attackers, and Ulm PD is easily killed with magic). As Gandalf pointed out, however, PD is a particular strength of those nations, to balance out the difficulty of amassing a considerable number of national troops.
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April 1st, 2004, 03:22 AM
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Re: does anyone else think province defense can be levied to quickly?
I don't mind Mictlan PD. Seems as good or better than that of Man or Machaka. PD is a lot better when combined with other units. Some of those "worthless" mobs of PD get a lot more dangerous when they're in addition to a regular army, or have spells on them that make up for their weaknesses.
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