Pricing of Mages ... is it balanced?

[Vicious Love]

Haven't had more than the barest minimum of experience with them, but I imagine that a pretender-made path booster or two could make them downright wicked searchers and item forgers. In that order.

[tinkthank]

Cohen, to illustrate KO's point:

Both Tien standard and Tien S&A mages cost 250 gold, but the S&A mage gets TWO randoms AND a strat-3 flying movement! And this is a Good Thing. (Bad would be: if they cost more, or the standard CM cost less.)

btw, I think that S&A CMs are great, my favorite mage in the game bar none, and with good gear, they can cast almost any spell in the game. I love them.

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Arryn:

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Originally posted by Cainehill:
I suspect you could also Gateway them into the water.

Pricey way to dispose of such chaff.

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Heh. Actually, pricey would be gatewaying the militia into the water with a mage who couldn't breath water.

Like when I found out yesterday that Void Lurkers don't like breathing air. Most expensive teleport to site search I ever did.

[PvK]

I like to get my free militia killed too, but it seems pretty useful as it dies, sucking attention from enemy attacks and spells and such, buying me time to do important things on the battlefield, adding to the number of unburied corpses which can be turned into armed soulless...

PvK

[Boron]

Originally posted by tinkthank:
Cohen, to illustrate KO's point:

Both Tien standard and Tien S&A mages cost 250 gold, but the S&A mage gets TWO randoms AND a strat-3 flying movement! And this is a Good Thing. (Bad would be: if they cost more, or the standard CM cost less.)

btw, I think that S&A CMs are great, my favorite mage in the game bar none, and with good gear, they can cast almost any spell in the game. I love them.

not quite .
i think Cheezeninja was quite clear . an cm has S1** that means he can be killed too easy by mind duel . they don't get good / high enough randoms for good conjuration forging easy too .

so i think pretty true against ryleh , arco + pythium the cm might suck extreme .

[PvK]

Unless you have an astral king with them...

[tinkthank]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by tinkthank:
<strong> Cohen, to illustrate KO's point:

Both Tien standard and Tien S&A mages cost 250 gold, but the S&A mage gets TWO randoms AND a strat-3 flying movement! And this is a Good Thing. (Bad would be: if they cost more, or the standard CM cost less.)

btw, I think that S&A CMs are great, my favorite mage in the game bar none, and with good gear, they can cast almost any spell in the game. I love them. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">not quite .
i think Cheezeninja was quite clear . an cm has S1** that means he can be killed too easy by mind duel . they don't get good / high enough randoms for good conjuration forging easy too .

so i think pretty true against ryleh , arco + pythium the cm might suck extreme .

Well to each his own, I disagree completely. I donÄt know what you mean with "good / high enough" randoms, I think 2 randoms is quite awesome in my eyes. I am bound to get a 2S CM very very soon, and that gives my Starshine Skullcaps, which I try to mass produce asap. But whatever, if you think they are not good, that is fine with me. I basically only wanted to illustrate why price/value calculations cannot be globalized: Tien Chi is a perfect example of why a mage with abilities PQR and a gold cost of XYZ is *balanced* even when compared to a mage with abilities PQR+2 and a gold cost of XYZ-1.

[Boron]

i love that mages are not balanced but nations otherwise it would be boring
i myself don't like the celestial master anymore though because of my mentioned reasons tinktank
i use them only for research , sitesearch , forge but not for combat .
i love tien chi s&a but they are really difficult and i can't play them well