Fools Lament III (modded) - Started, v2.15!

[Yossar]

Nappa said:
doesn't Atlantis have a 50% enchantment bonus site on this map?

But it's underwater so some spells can't be cast there. Not sure which ones offhand.

[odd_enuf]

most good enchantment spells that don't require extra gems can't be, the main excpetion is enliven statutes.

[Soapyfrog]

Tartarian factories (even if you double the cost of summoning them) heavily slant the game towards whoever can get the chalice or put up a solid GoH first, which is kind of unfortunate. If you are unable to GoR them, on the other hand, then it is much more balanced: e.g. 1 out 5 (or something) tartarians will show up as commanders, the rest as troops, and being unable to GoR pretty well automatically balances the spell... so I am going to have to agree with Zen on this one.

Well lets run with the no-GoR, no-Wish thing and see how it works out. Honestly with the conjuration bonus sites on this particular map GoRd tartarians might be just a tad TOO good anyway.

[Peter Ebbesen]

Soapyfrog said:
Well lets run with the no-GoR, no-Wish thing and see how it works out. Honestly with the conjuration bonus sites on this particular map GoRd tartarians might be just a tad TOO good anyway.

The major cost in running squads of Gor'ed Tartarians has not in my limited experience been the 10 death gem summoning cost (which a 50% conjuration site would reduce to 5 death gems) - it has been the 20 nature gem GoR enchantment each, the dozens of gems sunk into construction of equipment to outfit Tartarians, the initial equipment needed to boost several summoners into the 7D spell domain to start with, and the cost of holding the Chalice/Gift of Health.

[Soapyfrog]

Well with no GoR a commander tartarian now costs 40 or 50 death gems to summon, and comes with some beefy troops. So they are slightly more costly now, and more importantly it takes more time to summon them.

To be honest the more I think about the effects of this, the more pleased I am. It is still worth it IMHO to pursue a tartarian summoning strategy, it's just no longer the absolute be-all end-all most efficient summoning strat.

[Soapyfrog]

I the event no one signs up for Atlantis before the weekend, wie'll stick an expert AI in there and kick-off. How does that sound to everyone?

[Nappa]

In our Last game the AI's got wiped out very fast. Since Peter said Atlantis is the balance race for Ermor on that map how about the difficult setting? The AI can not take advantage of the map like a human player can.

But either way, let's get going.