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[The Panther]

My opinion is to pretty much ignore anything Graeme Dice says, as his advice is typically quite poor. You can see from many of his past Posts that he is frequently in the minority on lots of issues. Also, he loves to flame people unnecessarily.

ANY pre-game alliances should be announced before the game starts so that the other players can decide whether or not to play that way and form their own counter-alliances. Anything else is highly unethical. The best you can do as a response is tell everyone when it occurs (like you did) so that other folks know the truth about certain people. Of course, players can always change their handles and do it again. And unfortunately, there are far too many 'Norfleets' in the multi-player gaming communities who have to win at all costs. At least there seems to be fewer of this type in Dominions than there are in Starcraft and many other games.

A possible solution to the pre-game alliance problem is for the developers to come up with a team concept in addition to the standard FFA scenario. I doubt this will happen anytime soon, though.

[Graeme Dice]

The Panther said:
My opinion is to pretty much ignore anything Graeme Dice says, as his advice is typically quite poor.

Well, since I've yet to see any useful advice from you, I'll simply return the favour.

You can see from many of his past Posts that he is frequently in the minority on lots of issues. Also, he loves to flame people unnecessarily.

You really like to whinge, don't you. I flame people who deserve it, and right now, you deserve it.

ANY pre-game alliances should be announced before the game starts so that the other players can decide whether or not to play that way and form their own counter-alliances. Anything else is highly unethical.

Go cry me a river. If there are no house rules about pre-game diplomacy, then anything goes. If you want to play a different type of game, then start your own and make the players anonymous.

A possible solution to the pre-game alliance problem is for the developers to come up with a team concept in addition to the standard FFA scenario. I doubt this will happen anytime soon, though.

That's right, since it isn't actually a problem.

[Saeter]

Graeme Dice said:

Go cry me a river. If there are no house rules about pre-game diplomacy, then anything goes. If you want to play a different type of game, then start your own and make the players anonymous.

Not that my opinion matters really but I have to agree with Greame on this. How could pregame diplomacy not be allowed, if nothing is said about it? Even if it was an established community house rule, this is an open forum and some players may never have played a MP game of any kind before and would have to be told.

Still, actually I'm playing a Space Empires IV game where only in-game diplomacy is allowed and it's a very good house rule . Makes coordination less powerful because of the 1 turn message delay and also you don't have to put lots of time into diplomatic emailing. I like diplomatic emailing, but it gets quite time consuming when playing many games.

[Huntsman]

Just found this thread. Whew...

I'm playing Pangaea and there was indeed pre-game discussion about dealing with Ermor quickly. I'm somewhat a newbie too but that has always seemed to be a goal of Ermor's neighbors in my other games--essentially, remove Ermor before it becomes unstoppable. *shrugs* I'm not even fully aware of the logic behind "why" Ermor has big target on its back but I've been around long enough to know that it does and that it's prudent to get them out of the game ASAP.

When I found out I was about as close to Ermor as one could get I had two thoughts: 1) go with Carrion Woods and ally with Ermor or 2) go regular Pangaea and fight Ermor.

That's about all there was to it. "Oh look, Ermor is my neigbor so I either join him or fight him". I don't see how this can be considered bad form or (OMG!)cheating. It's purely a diplomatic/strategic decision. hell, I say the same thing in every game really, no matter who my neighbors are.

Anyway, although I agreed to this war with Ermor I have never actually invaded him though I am trying to keep him from taking over Ulm and, thus, surrounding me on 3 sides.

Crash, sorry you weren't aware of that massive target on Ermor's back. FOr that reason I'll probably never play Ermor in an MP game. I much prefer having friends. I had no idea what your skill level was. Had I known before the game started I might have gone with my #1 option, with Carrion Woods, and approached you with an alliance offer. I like allying with newbies like me to take on the vets!

[Soapyfrog]

The server will be going down at @9:00am EST Thursday, December 30th, for maintenance, and will likely be down for most of the day.

[Saeter]

Since the server is down, could you extend the deadline when it's up again? If the deadline is soon that is.

[Soapyfrog]

Server is back up. The turn is reset to 72 hours.