(Shocking) News!!!!!

[Tim Brooks]

StrategiaInUltima said:
Moreover, there has been just about no marketing at all for SE.

Really. Where did you get this information? I would like to know why you "think" this?

[Azselendor]

Aside from reviews and the banners of Shrapnel-aligned websites, I haven't seen ads for it.

But with this latest revelation about Strategy First.. One word comes to mind:

Enron

It actually reminds me to the dot com bubble burst too. I had a huge number of friends who had a 3rd party handle advertising on their site and paid them for those banner placements and then refused to pay the fees to the web master citing bankruptcy. Nearly all of them are website-less now or struggling.


As for GalCiv2, The reviews I saw of that game and the screenshots provided in those reviews are two seperate things. I felt like I was listening to a bible thumper in the reviews. I would give a game more serious consideration if it had a harsher, more realistic review. Hell, if I could I would give them. I'm yet to see a copy of GalCiv outside a last-chance, dent'n'bend bargin bin I'm also yet to see more than one copy of the game at the same time in the same store.

This is the only time I'm glad bush's new bankruptcy law will prevent a company from escaping its debts.

And God, Satan, and Dick Cheney forbid that SFI Screws MM, and they'll be hell for them to pay from all of us.

[tesco samoa]

Klvino... Strategy First is in Montreal.

So that law carries no weight

[douglas]

I found out about SE by seeing my older brother playing SE III (unregistered) and asking something along the lines of "What's that? It looks interesting." I have no idea how he found it.

[Baron Munchausen]

Klvino [ORB] said:
Aside from reviews and the banners of Shrapnel-aligned websites, I haven't seen ads for it.

But with this latest revelation about Strategy First.. One word comes to mind:

Enron

It actually reminds me to the dot com bubble burst too. I had a huge number of friends who had a 3rd party handle advertising on their site and paid them for those banner placements and then refused to pay the fees to the web master citing bankruptcy. Nearly all of them are website-less now or struggling.


As for GalCiv2, The reviews I saw of that game and the screenshots provided in those reviews are two seperate things. I felt like I was listening to a bible thumper in the reviews. I would give a game more serious consideration if it had a harsher, more realistic review. Hell, if I could I would give them. I'm yet to see a copy of GalCiv outside a last-chance, dent'n'bend bargin bin I'm also yet to see more than one copy of the game at the same time in the same store.

This is the only time I'm glad bush's new bankruptcy law will prevent a company from escaping its debts.

And God, Satan, and Dick Cheney forbid that SFI Screws MM, and they'll be hell for them to pay from all of us.

Enron is a recent example on a larger scale, but Strategy 1st being a gaming company it reminds me of the shenanigans around TSR when Dungeons & Dragons was the 'Next Big Thing'. He was screwed right & left by people who wanted to live the 'corporate lifestyle' just like those dot-con guys a couple decades later. His wife was actually bargaining with 'her half' of his shares in the company behind his back while their divorce was in progress. Gygax own website seems to be down or inaccessible, but here are some other accounts I've managed to find:

http://www.atlasofadventure.com/Archive/gygaxfaq.asp

http://www.rubycovenant.com.au/viewt...?t=830&start=0

I imagine that something very similar going on at Strategy 1st could produce just those 'impossible' results of non-payment to developers and bankruptcy at the same time. All the money would be going into limousines, 'expense accounts' for free travel around the world, salaried 'jobs' for relatives who never show up to work, and etc. just like happened at TSR. This is not looking good for MM.

[Atrocities]

I have done a lot more looking and David is correct. If Malfador has confidence in SFI, then so do I.

[Greybeard]

I originally found SEIV through one of the game download sites (CNet or ZdNet?). I like strategy games and found the demo on the site. After a game or two, I went to Shrapnel and ordered the game.

In my opinion, free downloads of the demos is the best way to reach those who like this type of game.

[Annette]

Greybeard said:
I originally found SEIV through one of the game download sites (CNet or ZdNet?).

Marketing.

Greybeard said:
...found the demo on the site. After a game or two, I went to Shrapnel and ordered the game.

Marketing.

Renegade 13 said:
I found out about the SE series by doing a search on the internet for "space strategy games".

Marketing.

[Captain Kwok]

If you're keeping score that's 3 for marketing and 0 for dumb luck.