64 bit SEV?

Baron Munchausen · #1 June 19th, 2005, 09:01 PM

SE 3 & 4 were written in Delphi. I'm not sure about SE V. MM has been aware that most of the fancy graphics libraries available are in C++ so I think he's been at least planning to move to a C++ development environment. (Probably MS 'Studio' although I think Borland still produces a C compiler of some sort?)

Hmm, searching the SE 5 beta executable for copyright strings I found Borland and some occurences of Delphi nearby. Guess he's still using some version of Delphi. You'd have to ask him exactly what version it is.

Aiken · #2 June 19th, 2005, 09:45 PM

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Baron Munchausen said:
SE 3 & 4 were written in Delphi. I'm not sure about SE V. MM has been aware that most of the fancy graphics libraries available are in C++ so I think he's been at least planning to move to a C++ development environment. (Probably MS 'Studio' although I think Borland still produces a C compiler of some sort?)

I guess many pieces of se4's code were reused in se5. Not to mention SF 3d engine, which is written in Delphi.

Borland produces CPP Builder. Not too popular today.

GreyCloud · #3 June 21st, 2005, 05:26 AM

SE is written Delphi ? nice

Delphi is a great language, like Pascal but Object Orientated, its not great for graphics, but it handles everything else excellently, especially databases (how many of them are there in SE !)

Gandalf Parker · #4 June 21st, 2005, 11:40 AM

You would be surprised how many games, or programs in general, are not written in C++. Libraries do tend to be but any progamming language can call libraries. Thats why I rankle when someone asks what to learn and gets C++ shot at them right away. Sure if you are planning to try for a job where a large team of programmers is locked away in cubicles working on one program then C++ is a good default answer.

Hmmmm there could be a Tshirt in there.
"LEARN C++ (if you want to work in a cubicle)"
Hey no flaming, Im only half serious.

Baron Munchausen · #5 June 21st, 2005, 05:35 PM

Actually, 'hard core' programing jobs in general are drying up. Apparently they've all been sent to India...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/...MwBHNlYwM3Mzg-

So the stuff to learn now is 'Visual Basic' and 'MS Access' (the Office database language) so you can hack for your office manager...

I was a reasonably good Turbo Pascal programmer once... before 'Delphi' even existed. I suppose I'd have to learn all over again, by now. Never was much good at C or x86 assembler.

Gandalf Parker · #6 June 21st, 2005, 09:51 PM

Ive known that was coming for a long time. Ive always telecommuted. Im surprised it took so long for them to realise that the guy they never saw anyway could be replaced with a guy farther away who would work for way less. Heck almost a decade ago we had our MUD game vastly improved by a russian programmer who only spoke to us in C. We sent him an old modem for free to speed him up and he was thrilled because it represented 6 months pay to him.

But hey, its all trade-off. our geeks get wives.
http://www.bride.ru/

Thermodyne · #7 June 21st, 2005, 11:44 PM

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Gandalf Parker said:
Ive known that was coming for a long time. Ive always telecommuted. Im surprised it took so long for them to realise that the guy they never saw anyway could be replaced with a guy farther away who would work for way less. Heck almost a decade ago we had our MUD game vastly improved by a russian programmer who only spoke to us in C. We sent him an old modem for free to speed him up and he was thrilled because it represented 6 months pay to him.

But hey, its all trade-off. our geeks get wives.
http://www.bride.ru/

At my day job, our two Unix programers are ex-Soviets. They know Unix and some ither old stuff, and I expect they will be very unhappy later this year when the last main frame gets moved downtown to the datacenter from hell.

Thermodyne · #8 June 21st, 2005, 11:41 PM

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Baron Munchausen said:
Actually, 'hard core' programing jobs in general are drying up. Apparently they've all been sent to India...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/...MwBHNlYwM3Mzg-

So the stuff to learn now is 'Visual Basic' and 'MS Access' (the Office database language) so you can hack for your office manager...

I was a reasonably good Turbo Pascal programmer once... before 'Delphi' even existed. I suppose I'd have to learn all over again, by now. Never was much good at C or x86 assembler.

Access is not the "thing" anymore. If you can do SQL you are hired.

boran_blok · #9 June 23rd, 2005, 04:50 AM

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Thermodyne said:
Access is not the "thing" anymore. If you can do SQL you are hired.

SQL is easy as hell, now cobol, there lies a challenge, or even worse CODASYL database systems. but the latter are really outdated.