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Old September 27th, 2005, 12:42 PM

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who says and arch seraph cant kill a 1027 with less than a 100 people helping him!
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who says and arch seraph cant kill a 1027 with less than a 100 people helping him!
Care to do the math? An arch seraph wearing a Rime Hauberk has a combat encumbrance of 6, and a spellcasting encumbrance of 8. Assuming you leap right into melee, casting neither Wind Guide nor Thunderstrike, you still gain 12 fatigue per round of quickened combat. That means you have 9 rounds in which to inflict casualties, before you lose consciousness, your defense drops to zero, and pretty much anything other than an Ermorian soulless kills your ~10HP pretender in one or two hits.

Now, in each such round of combat, you strike twice with the Tempest, twice with the Dancing Trident, and once with the Spirit Helmet. The hauberk is irrelevant, as the undead are cold-immune. Let's assume you're fighting a thoroughly defenseless Ermorian meat/bone shield, and take out one with each lightning bolt, one with each strike of the trident, and four with each swing of the Tempest. Unless I'm mistaken about the Tempest's area of effect, that's the maximal possible number of kills per round with this configuration. That's 11 kills per round, for 9 rounds before you pass out. Unless I've missed something, 99 is a far, far smaller number than 1027.

Conclusion: Not only could your pretender not have defeated the undead horde without those 100 supporting troops, those troops actually did just over 90% of the work. Not surprising, since a large squad of claymen can easily take out huge armies of longdead and soulless without forcing you to risk your pretender's life(let alone your pretender and a full load of equipment, including a unique artifact). One casting of Wrathful Skies and a few seraphines with Rings of Tamed Lightning would also have done the job nicely.

Conditional: I'm assuming your god never actually lost consciousness, then regained it, then lost it again, then regained it, etc. Any tactic which necessitates repeatedly turning your pretender into a sitting duck on the front lines is no tactic at all, particularly if said pretender is mortal.

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1) Is relying on archers really that good an idea when wielding the Tempest, which autocasts Storm and thereby wastes about half your shots and makes the other half inaccurate?
2) Thunderstrike has an area of effect of 1, meaning it kills a maximum of 4 targets for 8 fatigue. Factor that into the above equation, and you wind up doing even less damage before passing out.
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kill joy!
I won.. okay
and as for the storm:
that is why wind guide was cast!
and the undead horde hit me twice one for 8 and another for 4 (experience!)
had HP of...about 20-25
also storm genrals tried the exact same tactic again... but this time with 13 storm genrals with necklace of vengance?
this worked better as compact troops and a large commander in the middle of them... well I killed a few.. or more!
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