Treelords in Conceptual Balance

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shovah said:
true but does a fountain need roots in the ground?

It needs some link to a source, doesn't it ?

[shovah]

well if yoour thinker of the pretender chassis the divine spirit in them IS their sorce

[Endoperez]

What about the Nature itself, if the treelords happen to be somewhat less egoistic embodiments of the etenral forces than the spirit of the Oracle?

Anythign can be axplained away with magic. Some things just conjure so strange images to our minds that they are best left alone, EVEN if they could be logically explained. It's the opposite of urban legends and myths, IMO - they are believed to be true without any proof, often even though they can be logically disproved.

[Emelio Lizardo]

Endoperez said:
Anythign can be axplained away with magic. Some things just conjure so strange images to our minds that they are best left alone, EVEN if they could be logically explained. It's the opposite of urban legends and myths, IMO - they are believed to be true without any proof, often even though they can be logically disproved.

I kink of think that even in a fantasy game, book, or movie, there needs to be some internal logic and limitations based upon some premis. Otherwise eveything is just arbitrary, which ultimately is boring. A lot of kludge game balancing takes place because the authors didn't really give thought to creating natural limitations.

[Olive]

i don't see why a tree capable of thinkink and casting powerfull magic can't teleport himself because of his roots.

If he is able to cast teleport, he can also teleport his roots and slip it in the ground.

[Cainehill]

Olive said:
i don't see why a tree capable of thinkink and casting powerfull magic can't teleport himself because of his roots.

If he is able to cast teleport, he can also teleport his roots and slip it in the ground.

Sure - via the nature / forest spell Faery Trod. But not to float around on a flying carpet, which is a current exploit in some versions of the CB mod prior to 5.2.

Via teleport though, if someone were to empower a Treelord with astral magic? No. Yes, he can teleport himself, but all his roots above ground would be a problem - especially teleporting into mountains, castles, or (heh heh) the sea.

[quantum_mechani]

Cainehill said:

Sure - via the nature / forest spell Faery Trod. But not to float around on a flying carpet, which is a current exploit in some versions of the CB mod prior to 5.2.

Via teleport though, if someone were to empower a Treelord with astral magic? No. Yes, he can teleport himself, but all his roots above ground would be a problem - especially teleporting into mountains, castles, or (heh heh) the sea.

Actually, even with immobile, I believe empowering with astral would allow teleporting (just like most immobile pretenders).

[Vicious Love]

Olive said:
i don't see why a tree capable of thinkink and casting powerfull magic can't teleport himself because of his roots.

If he is able to cast teleport, he can also teleport his roots and slip it in the ground.

As Cainehill mentioned, teleportation isn't the issue. Still, you'd think something with such an enduring magical connection to the soil wouldn't be able to uproot itself on a whim. I mean, I can see the whole forest kinda shifting around it, since the trees don't mess with the treelord, but I still can't see it getting used to a new province in less than a century or two without bringing at last half of its old province along for the ride.

Also,
Emelio Lizardo casts Raise Skeletons
Emelio Lizardo casts Raise Skeletons

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Could we stop these kinda ridiculous disputes about what could or not do a Treelord if ever a such thing existed ?

IMO the question is to know if, *in the Dom2 game*, a Treelord should or not be tagged immobile for gameplay, interest and balance. The rest is really useless babble ...

[Oversway]

I have photographic evidence of treelords using flying carpets in real life, so that should settle this dispute