Space Empires V Pirated!

[DeadMilkman]

And of course something else that would work even better.

Seed up torrents that contain whatever (it would be best if they contained the demo or something that could be mis-identified as SEV without containing junk files) , then when they are at around 95-98%, disconnect them. That way the entire torrent will never be downloaded, and it takes a long time for people to usually realize they have a dead torrent when it gets up to that kind of level.

This bypasses the problem of the downloaders discovering that they have a bad torrent, and spreading the news.

[Atrocities]

I have no problems with people who download avaiable software that they eventually buy. My problem is with the person or persons posting Space Empires V and Dominions 3 to these sites. Those are the POS's that I dislike.

Alow me to clarify. I don't blame the pirating of space empires v or Dominions 3 on the people who chose to download the software, I blame it on the person(s) who uploaded it in the first place.

I don't want to sound calus, but I ONLY care about space empires V and Dominions 3 and that was the whole purpose behind my posts here. Whoever posted those two games to the BT sites is the pirate and that person should be held responsible for all the sales lost to both game publishers.

I would hope that any one who downloads these games would choose to buy them in order to support future games.

[Phoenix-D]

AT, you realize with a torrent that everyone who downloads also uploads, right?

[Atrocities]

Phoenix-D said:
AT, you realize with a torrent that everyone who downloads also uploads, right?

Yes, but I blame the guys who ORIGINALLY seeded the games not the people using the network.

[Renegade 13]

I'll freely admit I was a pirate. I pirated SEIV back in my younger days, before I had any money to spend on it after I tried out the demo. Then, when I had the money, I bought SEIV and was happy with that decision. I didn't pirate to get it free, I pirated as a method of...delaying payment for the game that I was going to buy anyways Condemn that if you will, it won't bother me

[Atrocities]

We all have our skeletons in the closest, I am no hypocrit, I just dislike the fact that someone, quite possibly a member here, could be so bitter that they would willingly undermine the success of Dominions 3 and SE V by posting them to a BT site. To me they are traiters to the franchises, the fanboys, and the games themselves. They represent the scum that should never have been aloud to evolve into human form.

[capnq]

Danipenn said: Lets take Dom3 as an example...a persona might download the demo, play with it, and decide to buy it...HOWEVER, the price they ask for Dom3 for some ppl is really too much regardless the game quality, the small dev team and so on...it is still too much no matter the reason.

People earn their money in this World so they choose carefully where to allocate them...they are called customers...u can ask as much money as u want for a game but have to face the consequence of ppl not buying it because it is too much.

People should also face the consequence of not having enough money to pay for a LUXURY item. You aren't going to die if you don't play a computer game; you aren't even going to be seriously inconvenienced.

The publishers know how much they have to charge to make enough money to stay in business. How much customers want to pay is only one factor in the pricing decision.

[Tim_Ward]

DeadMilkman said:
Tim_Ward, unfortunately that wont really help, because torrents are not only usually posted to multiple sites, but there are torrent sites which index other sites torrents as well.... basically they spread.

Obviously you'd have to to target more than just mininova.

You'd never get rid of it entirely, but the more sites you can get it taken down from the less people will find the torrent and the less people therefore will pirate the game. If you really think that'll help sales.

[Azselendor]

actually, you target the original uploaders.

See, any copy of SEV that is copied from the CD, I believe, uses a key, correct? If so, that key can be traced to the original person who pirated it via strategy first's shipping logs. If it's sold online, we have a credit card and a shipping address. If its sold in a store, then we can trace the cd key to the batch shipment sent to a store, then check with that store's purchase logs to find out who bought it and even get a picture (and if we got time, maybe play a rousing game of one-sided chair beatings).

Once we find the SOB, we then look at his torrent uploading stats and the number of down loaders for that torrent and pull a page from the RIAA, We take that information and times the number of down loaders times the number of days available times the full retail price to determine how much he owes aaron.

And if he's outside the country or unwilling to pay, I'm sure more than one of us will be more than happy to play the aforementioned chair beating game with him.

[Baron Grazic]

I like your thoughts Azselendor.
Only thing against it is if they have made a key generator. I'm not sure how hard that would be to create, but if only a simple algorithm was used...