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February 15th, 2007, 10:48 PM
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Re: Is there a way to lock research paths?
Thanks for the responses guys, I didn't think so.
You know, I love IW and I love Dominions, but something like this is inexcusable in the third iteration of a series. Shame on you IW!! And Shrapnel is just as much to blame, you've had this game for two releases now this should be fixed!
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February 16th, 2007, 04:16 AM
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Re: Is there a way to lock research paths?
T77, The Dom2/Dom3 research is much better than in DomPPP where you had to assign each damned mage separately and fiddle around until you got what you wanted, and it was a real pain in the arse. So we're talking about the current research model in its second incarnation.
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February 16th, 2007, 08:19 AM
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Re: Is there a way to lock research paths?
I don't actually think it's a problem to be honest, it only takes a few seconds at most to get it how you want it.
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February 16th, 2007, 10:45 PM
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Re: Is there a way to lock research paths?
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I don't actually think it's a problem to be honest, it only takes a few seconds at most to get it how you want it.
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In my current MP game I was trying to set 3 paths and I got so frustrated that I almost gave up.
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February 17th, 2007, 12:54 PM
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Re: Is there a way to lock research paths?
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I don't actually think it's a problem to be honest, it only takes a few seconds at most to get it how you want it.
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I've been frustrated with this problem since Dom 2. It's a royal pain.
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February 19th, 2007, 01:50 AM
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Re: Is there a way to lock research paths?
Another problem is that sometimes pressing + or - doesn't go up or down by 1, it moves by 2 or 3. And clicking on the bars doesn't work either.
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February 19th, 2007, 07:02 AM
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Re: Is there a way to lock research paths?
Yes, a button to lock / unlock a path, like in Master of Magic for Mana/Research/Skill if I remember well, would be great.
And the + / - should add / substract points 1 by 1, it's always frustrating to spend time trying to adjust precisely research, and not succeeding at it.
Something more, when choosing a school to display the list of spells, the spells are sorted by levels. Near of the level, it would be nice to have the research points needed to reach it.
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Alteration 1 : OK.
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Alteration 2 : OK.
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Alteration 3 : 43 remaining.
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Alteration 4 : 203 remaining.
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OK, it's actually possible to calculate it if needed, but it would be more comfortable to have it displayed. 
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February 25th, 2007, 12:50 PM
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Re: Is there a way to lock research paths?
I agree that locking research paths is a must.
Another possiblity I have seen in other games:
The bars can be used as weights, i.e. each bar can take any value between 0 and 100 independently from the others. The amount of points allocated to each path is then determined by (weight for this path)/(total sum of weights)*(number of points available).
Though that would probably be more difficult to implement than simple locking.
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February 25th, 2007, 07:13 PM
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Re: Is there a way to lock research paths?
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Another problem is that sometimes pressing + or - doesn't go up or down by 1, it moves by 2 or 3. And clicking on the bars doesn't work either.
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What, you can use + and - keys?? Whahoo! I didn't know that, I was missing buttons for exactly that, ALOT. I got fairly good at making mouse clicks with single pixel precision now, though. 
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February 26th, 2007, 03:21 PM
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Re: Is there a way to lock research paths?
I can see this as being a nice tweak to the UI, but I *never* spread research around 3 schools, and the only time I split between 2 schools is when I will reach my current goal in a school that turn.
Presumably you have specific reasons to be researching particular schools. Suppose your current strategic goals are to be able to cast falling frost and arrow fend, and you want to reach contruction-6. I cannot imagine a case in which you would be better off reaching all 3 goals simultaneously in, say, 15 turns. By focusing on one at a time, you might be able to cast falling frost in 4 turns, then forge const-6 items at the 10-turn mark, and still be able to cast arrow fend on turn 15. That's 11 turns in which you would be able to use falling frost, and 5 turns worth of forging that you would not have been able to do by going for all 3 goals at the same time.
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