Dragons

Dedas · #1 April 28th, 2007, 01:38 PM

Try the undead dragon (don't remember the name), it has fear and death magic, thus boostable fear. Combine that with awe and you have an literally awesome beast.

Gandalf Parker · #2 April 28th, 2007, 02:10 PM

One of the good points of the dragons was originally meant to be the surprise created by the fact that the research form is ALWAYS a duplicate of another pretender that is available. That the enemy would take for granted you had a low-hp mage standing there which might easily be killed.

Unfortunately, it doesnt seem to play out that way?

quantum_mechani · #3 April 28th, 2007, 02:58 PM

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Gandalf Parker said:

Unfortunately, it doesnt seem to play out that way?

For several reasons. One is that the rainbow mages they impersonate are so suboptimal people are highly sceptical that someone actually choose one. Another is that of course the magic paths they would have would look nothing like what the rainbow would have. But most importantly, to actually be mistaken the rainbow you would have to leave the dragon in the rainbow form, effectively wasting it's main use, early expanding.

Shovah32 · #4 April 28th, 2007, 03:00 PM

And when people see your pretender has several hundred kills in the first few turns of the game they get suspicious

Dedas · #5 April 28th, 2007, 03:06 PM

There isn't gold at the end of the rainbow so to speak...

Shovah32 · #6 April 28th, 2007, 03:49 PM

And why would you take a human rainbow when you can get similar magic on a stronger ghost king or safer(immortality) master lich? Maybe in single player where your pretender is safe and you want alot of magic but i dont think you would try it in competitive multiplayer.

Endoperez · #7 April 28th, 2007, 04:43 PM

They are supposed to be more viable due to cheaper starting path costs. It isn't enough to make them competitive.

MaxWilson · #8 April 28th, 2007, 04:51 PM

IIRC, the Dracolich impersonates a Bog Mummy which IS immortal, so you have the odd situation of the fake form looking less durable than the real form--there's actually a quite plausible reason to take a Bog Mummy as an SC so you wouldn't spot it purely because of that. However, you could tell the difference by checking the paths.

What if dragons had a higher base cost and lower path cost? Say, gcost 110 and pathcost 20. It's cheaper than the existing dragon chassis if and only if you take three or more paths. It would encourage rainbow-ism in these oh-so-magical dragons, but when they transformed into dragon form they'd have to rely mainly on their primary path. The one potential downside I see is that it tips the balance in favor of one major/multiple minor blesses as opposed to the current dual-bless usage for dragons.

-Max