Epic Heroes Mod MA game(finished)

[Foodstamp]

I should clarify. My post is mainly in jest. I would rather be the single nation getting teamed up on than being part of a group of nations teaming up on a single nation. It's one of the reason I picked Vanheim this game and have been playing R'lyeh quite a bit lately.

I chose to live by the sword, I have no issue at all dying by it. And I will do it yet again in the next multiplayer game I am in. Eventually, I will find a way to win without depending on massive diplomacy to supplement skill . For now, I am still teh suq as far as standing alone goes, but next game I will fair better, etcetera etcetera.

[Xietor]

If you look on the Epic Heroes Mod thread(in mod forum), about 2 posts from the bottom are the tweaks coming in 1.5. Generally speaking so far:

Below par Epic Heroes:

1. Atlantis
2. Shinuyama

Regrettably I do not really play these races, and did not realize the injustice i did to them with the 1.4 Epic Heroes. Playing Shinuyama this game(1st time ever) gave me new insight to their lack of punch.

Atlantis Hero is basically just a slightly beefed up starspawn, such as the Rlyeh can buy at all of their castles.

Both of these races' Epic Heroes will be getting significant boosts in 1.5.

Epic Heroes that need a slight tweaking downwards:
1. machaka-will lose fear
2. Vanheim-tinker's hammer will lose its aoe attack effect(but will still have a 2ndary aoe of small area fire).

Epic Hero that is overpowered:
Rlyeh- he most likely is going to lose his life drain.

[DrPraetorious]

I'm not sure about power levels, but Li Bo is presently kinda redundant or boring.

He's rather like an existing hero Lu Ting-Pin (whom I also got) but with +1W, +2A, +1H, awe, magic being, the dominion spread, and he loses flight and the armor slot.

Maybe if he could domsummon the demon of the heavenly rivers (dom/10 would be plenty.) That'd be cool. Not sure what else he could do that would make him more 'epic" than Lu Ting-Pin except giving him more magic.

Anyway, I'm doing really well in this game but I think it's because of my position and skilled use of my military, not my hero. All he's done is search for sites, really.

[Sir_Dr_D]

Foodstamp, you are making it sound like you were the one who was peacefully standing around. You were the one who practically declared war on both of us.

[LoloMo]

I would like to submit that the epic hero for MA Agartha is sub sub sub par. He is basically a national troop with added w2. I just put him in the castle for research.

[Foodstamp]

I am clearly the victim here sir

My first post was written jokingly, except I really needed the 48 hours because of my RL schedule right now.

Someone sent me a private message thinking the post was serious, so I made the second post to let the parties involved know that I don't mind fighting a multifront war.

Goodluck in the fights to come!

[Xietor]

Lolo,

My hands are basically tied with respect to Agartha and Bandar Log's Epic Heroes made by Endoperez. He has been serving in his country's armed forces, and has not been available for dominions III discussions of late.

Endoperez made the 2 heroes he did for the Epic Heroes Mod, with the clear understanding that I could only tweak his heroes if they were OVERPOWERD, not otherwise.

While I technically breached the deal by adding a research bonus to Agartha, Endoperez gave his blessing to that change. I do understand that he thought the magic abilities of the Agartha Epic Hero opened up significant options not otherwise available to agartha.

You could send him a pm highlighting the imbalances you have observed. So he is not one of the 3 Hall of Fame commanders your race presently has?


And Dr. P, boring? Pleeassse. You made him. If you want a melee type hero, feel free to redesign him. I am not sure Tien chi needs a dominion summon for early expansion or defense.

Dr. P said:

"He's rather like an existing hero Lu Ting-Pin (whom I also got) but with +1W, +2A, +1H, awe, magic being, the dominion spread, and he loses flight and the armor slot."

The thing is, my good Dr., there is no guarantee you will get one of the very powerful Worthy Heroes. You begin the game with Li Bo.

And the Epic Heroes are supposed to be Epic, but some of the beefed up 1.7 Worthy heroes are sorta Epic as well. For some races it almost makes sense to take 3 luck to try and maximize your chancce of getting the Worthy heroes.

If you take 3 mis like Pythium, you only get your Epic Hero. So if another player takes 3 misf with Tien Chi, maybe Li Bo's value to them will be greater than a player who had the good fortune to get an immortal Worthy Hero right off the bat!

I will add that I have yet to get any worthy hero, and yes i am jealous!