eye shield

[Xietor]

Eyeshield is not great against spiders, as it gives them an affliction "lost some eyes" and if memory serves, was not that substantial a detriment. The clear implication was it still saw well enough with its remaining eyes to hit you quite well.

[lch]

Xietor said:
Eyeshield is not great against spiders, as it gives them an affliction "lost some eyes"

Yes, Wyrms and other critters only get the affliction "Lost some eyes", regardless how many eyes they lose. They never turn blind from eyeloss. I think I already reported that as a bug.

[TwoBits]

Maybe there needs to be a second step for multiple-eyed creatures - "lost some more eyes". Then a third, obvious step - "lost all your eyes".

[Xietor]

I think the eyeshield is fine as is. There is no need to have 1 item work against everything you face.

[Baalz]

No doubt, blind/more than 2 eyed units are relatively rare. I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to field against an eye shield equipped SC. It's often not terribly difficult to become (virtually) immune to the offensive spells your opponent's national mages can cast, so if you can't really kill him with spells, he's too tough to kill with regular units, and any of your tougher dudes are likely to be blind a couple rounds into combat.....what's that leave you? This is a con-4 item, seems a bit odd there isn't a reasonable counter short of fairly extreme measures.

[Reverend Zombie]

Baalz said:
This is a con-4 item, seems a bit odd there isn't a reasonable counter short of fairly extreme measures.

If the effect is "MR negates", then high MR units seem a good, non-extreme counter. I've used the shield against even average MR units, and they don't seem to be automatically suffering the eye loss.

Or, attack with your own Eye Shield thug.

Use physical damage spells.

Focus on routing the rest of the attacking army so that he will retreat.

[vfb]

If you are Mictlan, then your jaguar warriors do get a chance to heal afflictions when they change from a warrior to a jaguar.

Have you sent in a turkey mage to curse the SC yet? He could get a "lose an arm" affliction and drop his eye shield when he gets hit.

If you've managed to research blood 7, then 5 Mictlan priests casting leech should manage to get off 2 casts of Leech each, for a total damage of 250 at precision 100.

Or try building temples all the way to his capital and use jade knife sacrifices to wipe out his dominion.

[Edi]

lch said:

Yes, Wyrms and other critters only get the affliction "Lost some eyes", regardless how many eyes they lose. They never turn blind from eyeloss. I think I already reported that as a bug.

First time I've seen it right here...