How do you fight the Niefel giants?

[Lingchih]

Or just Charm them. I've totally lost track of which nation this was originally posted for, but Pangaea can just send a bunch of Pans, and charm the whole freaking army, Jarls too.

I lost so many Jarls to Carlosib in Ludus by this method, that he ended up having more Niefel Jarls than I did. And I paid for and equipped them all.

[Agema]

Instead of spamming skeletons, could you spam ethereal troops?

Giants are few in number and thus have few attacks - I think it's 75% chance of avoiding a hit for ethereal troops. A giant will kill a basic unit almost as easily as a 1HP phantasm, but they'd have a boatload of misses. Could this be better to hold them than skeletons?

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Reinvig of 7 and death four? 0 aggregate fatigue?
Raise Skeletons has fatigue 40.
Animate Skeleton has fatigue 30. I can see how negation takes place with this spell...

but raise skeletons has fatigue of 40, path 2. At D4, the cost would be 40 / (excess levels+1) or 13.

If they didn't have that high MR, you could drain life to recover fatigue- but as they do... No.

If you have the time and the mages, Darkness can help. Even if your army consists of regular troops, it affects elites more, working to your advantage. Plus it will significantly help with the survival of your skelies/ghosts.

For the record, you can spam ethereal troops. Niefel Giants do not have a magical weapon and the area-affect weapons they do get at con 4 are cold and death damage. So dispossessed spirits may get hit by a magical weapon, but only one at a time.

Now how effective any of this is? I'll probably be finding out, starting next to Niefelheim in Doom Chicken. None of the above is a tested strategy yet.

[Edratman]

Lazy_Perfectionist said:

Now how effective any of this is? I'll probably be finding out, starting next to Niefelheim in Doom Chicken. None of the above is a tested strategy yet.

It would be great if you reported any successful strategies from this game.

[Folket]

Drain life is not resistable. But not fast nor easy enough to mass.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

The problem with Doom Chicken is that I can't afford my Dai Oni... I'm a dirt poor Yomi...

Oh, Drain Life isn't resistable? Than script it amongst all the Raise Skeletons. It's not about the damage as much as the fatigue relief. Though I'll have to check out the damage and see whether its at all economical.

[Meglobob]

Folket said:
Drain life is not resistable. But not fast nor easy enough to mass.

If you do it via standard of the damned, combined with boots of quickness, you get 2 drain lifes per combat round for only 10 fatigue.

Thats a real killer for both giants and SC's or in indeed anything else that is big, has lots of hps.

[Valandil]

Wait... raise dead is fatigue 40? I thought it was 20!
Much is explained....