Siege mechanics in manual wrong?

[ano]

How big is the siege reduction for an animal? (it would be really useful to know)

[Xietor]

well it is huge. call of winds has a siege power of 6 instead of 27.21.

[llamabeast]

Noooo! No! I don't believe this. I have summoned so very, very many hawks for sieges in so many games. Aaargh!

So they are good at fixing castles but not at damaging them! That is silly! Or maybe they are bad at both.

[Dedas]

Really, how good did you think bird were against stone walls?!

You: Birds, tear that fortress down! It is an order!
Birds: Squawk?

[Dedas]

They are bad at both, as all "animal" tag units. Mindless are pretty bad as well... lol 1/10th of a normal unit.

[ano]

Mindless units crack walls really fast. Lankan soulless are the cheapest wall-breakers. I think, they don't really have a penalty for sieging, because Breaking is always easier than building

[Saulot]

*imagines llamabeast pulling his hair at the thousands of birds he's summoned*

*points and laughs at llamabeast*

[Xietor]

I have seen dozens of players use birds in mp games to siege, so it is not just llamabeast. But I did test them because i was considering using them for the 1st time and i wanted to see what bang i was getting for my buck(not being a trusting guy).

[NTJedi]

When using map edit commands I could not find any logical formula for sieging units verses the defending units.

[Dedas]

ano said:
Mindless units crack walls really fast. Lankan soulless are the cheapest wall-breakers. I think, they don't really have a penalty for sieging, because Breaking is always easier than building

I think you are wrong. If the soulless has 20 strength its value for tearing down a castle is:
20*20=400
400/100=4 (non mindless value)
4*0.1 (for being mindless 90% off) = 0,4

So 4 for a none mindless and 0.4 for a mindless, both with the strength of 20. I would say mindless pretty much suck at sieges.