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Old April 9th, 2002, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Proportions 2.1 available

Minor issue:

In Facility.txt, there are two entries for Radioactive resourse storage III (extra one is just above the distribution center). I don't think it has any effect on game play except for double appearence in the construction list.

Regarding to the game I mentioned in Prop.2.0 thread, it quickly detiorated to World Peace. I have treaties with all AI I am in contact with and AI no longer fight among themselves either.

The surprisingly peaceful nature of even the most aggresive AI in Proportions mod is in fact a testimony how good is overall AI in SEIV:

The trade/research treaty in Proportions is extremly profitable, it will take years and years of colony development to match the benefits of trade. Apparently, AI understands it and beheaves accordingly.

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OK.....where is it? would like to D/L also how big is it? (slow conn speed)
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Old April 9th, 2002, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Proportions 2.1 available

motlee:

scroll down to the very first post.
You must have Prop1.3 on SE IV Gold disk,
so all you need is a 2.1 patch from PvK web page. It is only 163K.
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Default Re: Proportions 2.1 available

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The surprisingly peaceful nature of even the most aggresive AI in Proportions mod is in fact a testimony how good is overall AI in SEIV:

The trade/research treaty in Proportions is extremly profitable, it will take years and years of colony development to match the benefits of trade. Apparently, AI understands it and beheaves accordingly.



More likely the slower rate of expansion is what is controlling this. The AI typically are quite passive in standard SEIV until your territory starts butting up against theirs. Once you colonize in a system they have claimed, or in some cases a system next to one they have claimed, they start to become more hostile towards you. Since Proportions expansion is slower, it should take longer for this to happen naturally.

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Default Re: Proportions 2.1 available

Thanks Schwarzbart!

Oleg, ya I accidentally duplicated the Resource Storage III. It shouldn't do anything but offer it twice on the list. I'll add an impossible tech req to the second one for the next patch so it will vanish without changing existing games.

As for the peaceful thing, I agree with geoschmo that the reduced expansion rate has a large effect. However another thing is that I rampaged through the AI files and altered a number of things. AI's that were supposed to be peaceful now have greatly reducded "envy" for their allies' possessions, and in some cases tolerate shared border areas. The ones that are supposed to be violent and psychotic though might be wanting a tweak in the other direction to counteract the effect of slower expansion.

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Default Re: Proportions 2.1 available

PvK, out of curiosity, why did you put
3 advanced traits for Abidon' 2K set up ?
It does not do any harm of course, since SE IV terminates race set up after reaching 2000 points (exactly between first and second advanced traits), but still ?
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