Andean Zorro - MA/diff_research/VPs - game started

[Janlm]

is there room for more?

[Omnirizon]

Janim,

there is room for a couple more. pick a nation and post on any preferences for settings; specifically map, graphs, CBM, and victory (cumulative or percentage VPs).

I'll give it till the end of the day to see if anybody else joins up. we'll take at most one more, then close; and if nobody else shows up by tonight, we'll roll with this nine.

start getting pretenders ready, this train is going to be moving soon.

[Omnirizon]

Here's how votes are looking:

Map is Cradle

Graphs are still a toss up (with four yay and nay). BigDisAwesome and Janim haven't voted on this yet though.

CBM is overwhelmingly no

Victory is looking like half of capitals (with four caps, three cumulative). Kheldron, Dragar, and Janim have not cast votes on this.

among those voting, there's a little more support for Indies 7 than lower numbers.

a couple of ppl have expressed HoF = 10 for < 10 players. Unless anybody objects, I will go with this.

also, please note sites are set at 50; quite a bit higher than default for MA. I'm guessing this is fine with everybody, as no one has said a word about it, but I wanted to bring it to everyone's attention.

[DonCorazon]

Omni, I love the VP and tougher research idea so would like to join if there is still space. If so, I'd like to try Pythium. My vote would be for CBM (though sounds like I'll lose that one). No strong opinion as to the other options.

[Dragar]

I vote for half capitals and indies 7, looking forward to this game

[Omnirizon]

alright DC. your on board and this game is now closed. I'll send llama an email and let him know we're ready. start making pretenders.

unless Janim AND DonC vote otherwise, it looks like VPs are in capitols only, and 50% of them to win. I've never played with VPs before (only read they do limit game length a bit), so we'll see how this works out.

we still need a tie breaker on graphs. if DC or Janim don't pick one way or the other; then they may just get left off.

CBM is off, Indies are 7, HoF is 10, sites 50, and map is Cradle.

[DonCorazon]

Since it is a VP game, I guess I'd prefer Graphs On to make it a bit more challenging.

[Ironhawk]

Just FYI, after playing many VP games, I can tell you that 50% of VPs is too high - Especially on a big map. It seems like you are trying to shoot for research and victory settings which will prevent researching all paths. But your game will drag on forever with a VP setting that high.

I know it sounds low, but 30-40% of cap VPs is usually about as much as any player can manage in a reasonable amount of time.

[DonCorazon]

I agree with Ironhawk. I had forgotten the VP ratios I have used in the past but now that I recall, 30% is about right. It worked well in Epotara, http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...=&fpart=1&vc=1, which ended around turn 60 or so and was a nice-paced game.

[Omnirizon]

thanks ironhawk,

I was thinking around 40% would be more reasonable for my goals, but having never played VPs, was just going to roll with 50% since it was suggested. This game is kind of an experimental one to gauge the balance of the settings anyway.

Is 40% a good compromise? Or are people hard on 50%?

Since we are using capitals as VPs, and tracking them manually in the forum, it isn't an issue to switch this up at anytime. If someone reaches 40%, and people want to push on, we can up it to 50%, or even just call the "official victor" then, but go ahead and continue the game to standard victory; just for fun.