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Old May 11th, 2002, 12:24 AM
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I really don't care about building sphereworlds on anything but a star, but this would allow other designs, smaller designs, to be built as bases anywhere in the system.
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The sphereworld concept is based on some forumula/table where a super advanced race would build them around a star. I will try to find that site that talks about sphereworlds. it is one of the few things that follow and actual concept.
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Old May 11th, 2002, 12:32 AM
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Sphearworlds: Dyson Sphears:

Ring or shell constructed around a star or black hole. In the ring live people;
the ring is powered by the energy emissions of the star/black hole.
The construction of this habitats are proposed by the 20th century physician
Dyson, but never taken serious.

The Dyson sphere is named for the 20th Century Earth scientist Freeman Dyson; Dyson suggested that civilizations could be classified by the amount of power which they could tap and control. He proposed that eventually a civilization would tap the entire energy output of a star; some suggested that this would best be achieved by orbiting huge numbers of solar collectors, but this idea was quickly replaced by the idea of constructing a large solid sphere around it. This would not only allow all of the suns energy to be tapped if required, but would also potentially allow a colossal living area to be built.

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Old May 11th, 2002, 12:41 AM
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Sphearworlds: Dyson Sphears:

Ring or shell constructed around a star or black hole. In the ring live people;
the ring is powered by the energy emissions of the star/black hole.
The construction of this habitats are proposed by the 20th century physician
Dyson, but never taken serious.

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Here is an interview with Dyson about this:

http://www.omnimag.com/archives/interviews/dyson.html
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Ironic.

Nuclear reactors in space, 30 years ago and now, absolutely no difference.

At least the Jet Propulsion Lab are researching Ion Engines.
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JPL's ion engines are low thrust, long burn engines, quite a departure from what most of us think of (ion drives on TIE fighters). But hey, it'll help JPL sucker money out of some of the... er, less sharp politicians.
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"But hey, it'll help JPL sucker money out of some of the... er, less sharp politicians."

It's not just suckering..

Let's say you have two cars. One can go 0-60 in one minute, but can only stay at 60 for one hour. Distance traveled: 60 miles. Time: 1 hour.

The second car can go 0-60 in one hour, but can stay there for a week. Distance traveled: 10,020 miles. Time: 168 hours. So you go 167 times the distance, for 168 times the time spent. Clearly if you need to go farther than a mile the second is a better choice..

That's why the current ion engines are useful. I have no idea why SF hit on "ion" engines being these speed demons, really.

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[QBThat's why the current ion engines are useful. I have no idea why SF hit on "ion" engines being these speed demons, really.

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Because in comparisson to chemical engines they are ! Well, potentially at least. There are no concevaible means to acclerate any more the exhast of standart rocket, while there might be ways to improve the thrust of other, so far exotic rocket engines. The close marking of any hints from academic establishment by mass media makes a perfect sense if you taxonony sci-fi literature according to its original postulate : a literature on the edge of our scientific progress. ( Star Trek is random string of techno bubble and has no right to be considered as a SCIENTIFIC fiction IMHO)
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