OT: US Pres election

[Trumanator]

Well no matter how insulting it seems to you, the polls are definitely showing a swing in women votes. TBH you don't pick a VP for anything but political reasons. In that sense, Palin completely changed the race from going through the motions to an actual race. I'm not sure how much Obama was thinking when he picked Biden, the most concrete point about him is that after half a dozen presidential runs he has never gotten more than a sliver of the primary vote. I am fully with you on the educate yourself part though, this season has brought the media out of the closet and into the open as the biased crapshoot it is.
As far as McCain's judgement goes...at least he doesn't count raging pastors, unrepentant terrorists, and socialist radicals among his friends.

PS- I really hope we can avoid personal attacks in this thread, I don't want to get it banned. Not that anyone has yet, but I want to make sure it doesn't happen.

[JimMorrison]

That's why our presidential process is a complete farce to begin with.

This 2 party system is a great competition between "bad" and "worse", that helps keep people distracted from any issue deeper than those that are directly confronted by the 2 candidates themselves.

Meanwhile, it's well proven that about 70% of what any presidential candidate promises, they will never even attempt to follow through on. And the 30% that they do, is all the stuff you were just willing to overlook, because the stuff you wanted to happen, was in the other 70%.

Screw voodoo economics, we have fully graduated to voodoo politics.

[K]

Originally Posted by Trumanator

Well no matter how insulting it seems to you, the polls are definitely showing a swing in women votes. TBH you don't pick a VP for anything but political reasons. In that sense, Palin completely changed the race from going through the motions to an actual race. I'm not sure how much Obama was thinking when he picked Biden, the most concrete point about him is that after half a dozen presidential runs he has never gotten more than a sliver of the primary vote. I am fully with you on the educate yourself part though, this season has brought the media out of the closet and into the open as the biased crapshoot it is.

The media goes for the throat whenever they they find weakness in either Party. The media frenzy over Palin is simply because you can put her in an interview and embarrass her with almost no effort (for example, when tossed the softball question "what do you think of the Bush Doctrine" and she didn't even know what it was... that was comedy gold, even after she is on record stating "I don't know what a Vice President does" just a month before her nomination).

The fact that the Republican Party tries to demonize the press as the "biased liberal media" every time the press catches them doing something embarrassing ... well, it is very sad that this kind of rhetoric works on the American people.

Originally Posted by Trumanator

As far as McCain's judgement goes...at least he doesn't count raging pastors, unrepentant terrorists, and socialist radicals among his friends.

Feel free to Google "mccain pastor", "mccain terrorists", and "mccain socialist". There are some choice links to articles on the first pages of each of those searches.

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In case you didn't notice, I prefer Obama. He believes in the rule of law and is not trying to take away my civil rights (like Palin's confessed desire to reverse Row v. Wade).