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				Re: Andean Zorro - MA/diff_research/VPs - game started
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I agree this game is painfully slow and feels dead but despite that everyone usually gets their turns in. I am enjoying it and think it could end in a relatively short time assuming 4 VP is the victory condition (Omni left it at 5 in his original post but we discussed setting it at 4 in the thread).   But if people are burnt out or we lose Calahan who provided a lot of the fun in the game, I don't mind calling it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Re: Andean Zorro - MA/diff_research/VPs - game started
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		AZ players -  
 
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1. Call the game now 
2. Look for a sub for Pan now  
3. Put game on hold for a week to see if Pan shows up - then decide 
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Let me know - thanks. As for how long the game could go on, let me say that Pyth just forged the Gate Stone and is close to having 3 VPs (Ermor, Eriu and Pythium). Normally I wouldn't disclose such affairs of state but do so now in case anyone is worrying that this game will not end in their lifetime... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		3 - If my vote counts. 
 
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		1. Mostly because I'm heading away for a month in a few weeks, which will be long before anything significant happens. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Ok, if Dragar wants to call it, and it doesn't look like Marignon is going to vote, I will vote in favor of calling it to.  How shall we decide on a winner? I don't mind posting my last turn file and looking at anyone else who thinks they had a chance. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Re: Andean Zorro - MA/diff_research/VPs - game started
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		You're ahead, happy to call it yours 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Re: Andean Zorro - MA/diff_research/VPs - game started
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Ok, I'll wait a bit to see if Calahan or Janim would like to vote or opine.  But barring any changes, we'll declare this one officially over in 24 hours. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Good. I've been a non factor for quite a while now, but Pangaea just never tried to finish me off. I haven't really had much fun in this game, I've just been playing because it sucks when someone goes AI. I'll be happy for this to be over. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Re: Andean Zorro - MA/diff_research/VPs - game started
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Ok, game is over. Pythium wins, probably more a function of the map than anything else.  Thanks for not going AI BDA - I think we had a good group of players but the hard research and sprawling map dragged this one out way too long.  I have attached Pythium's last turn file in case anyone is curious. 
		
	
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		what? we're ending the game? Guess i should have checked the forum more often.. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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